Sports package or not?

stan618

makes perfect sense haha

seriously eveytime i walk by the car and look at the 19's especially in the back i just cant help thinking how crazy those look!

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2009 370z pearl white 6 speed sport pkg

Mergnthwirker

Wheels/tires: No, you can't rotate the tires. I suppose you could unmount the rears and swap them right-for-left, and unmount the front tires from the rim and do the same thing. But conventional wisdom has it that once the tires have been rotating in one direction, it is unwise to switch them to rotating in the other direction b/c the belts take a "set" and switching can upset the plies. So No. And BTW, you are much more likely to wear out the rear tires before the front, so you will likely end up replacing them in pairs (if you keep the same brand). Otherwise if you replace all 4, you end up throwing away two tires with life still in 'em.

Heel/toe: without the synchro-rev, when you are braking for a corner with your toe on the brake, at the same time --while you are braking--you can rotate your heel to the accelerator pedal to "blip" the throttle to match the revs to the speed of the drivetrain in the lower gear that you will need when exiting the corner at a lower speed.

At Bondurant's high-performance driving school, they taught us to ease off on the brake and "trail brake" to keep the car down on its suspension in the corner, which helps rotate the car in the corner. Then ease up on the brake in last part of the corner, and smoothly accelerate as the weight shifts towards the rear so you can maximize traction throughout the turn. Tires have a limit to their traction, so you want to use them to their best advantage based on where you are in the turn. Heel-and-toe braking lets you do this by controlling both the braking and the application of the throttle at the same time.

The rev-matching feature is extremely nice b/c it always gets the right engine speed based on the speed the drivetrain is rotating, so there are never any jerks to upset the chassis balance in the middle of the corner. I spent a lot of time learning how to heel/toe, so I avoided using the synchro-rev for the first couple of months I owned my Z. But I found when I took it autocrossing that my times were actually better when I let the system rev match and I focused instead on hitting my braking points and steering the best line. Maybe if I were a better driver, I would not have discovered this... But on a 3:35 course, I was more than 5-10 seconds faster with the system on.

YMMV

ctzn

The sports package is, I think, a pretty obvious upgrade and an incredible value for the money. The wheels and brakes alone make the upgrade more than worth it imo. The addition of the LSD and SRM are cherries on top. If this was a BMW a package of this nature would cost $8K or so...

Plus those 19's are some the best looking stock wheels out there, I have had a few people ask me where I got them...

8cube

I'm not going to pass on the sports option. Its one of the biggest bang for the buck packages out there. If you don't like/need synchrorev you can turn it off. If you want to upgrade your wheels later you can get much more back from your forged rays then the base wheels. The brakes alone make it worth it and the thought of a peg-legged Z is sad.

Slynky

This is a very good reply. And before I come off as a total idiot, I want to make sure people understand what I was trying to convey. I say this because I see a lot of "heel/toe" comments in here and I didn't want the casual driver to think that's something they needed do know in order to drive the stick. The "heel/toe" "trick" is mostly used in tracking/racing, etc. In every day driving, you're more likely to see this--a person slows down by pressing the brake, letting the tranny and brakes slow them down. When slowed down enough for a turn (whatever it is), you'll then see the person put the foot back on the gas, tap it a bit, and downshift. Heck, some people don't even worry about the little tap. This was all I was trying to explain before some people began to think (who were new to a stick, etc.) that heel/toe was something they needed to learn. ANd that's not the case.

NOW, if you want to be a bit more aggressive with your car, THEN without auto rev-matching, you'd want to learn that foot maneuver.

But your reply was an excellent description of how to use it and how to tackle curves/turns.

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imag

I take the opposite tack: if you can't heel/toe, you either should be learning or you shouldn't be driving a manual.



It's fun to learn, it helps you feel more connected to the car, and it's an excellent feeling when you get it right shift after shift. Relying on SRM also means you won't be able to shift properly in a car without it.

Yeah, I know, I'm an ornery f**k.

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Slynky

Well, I didnt' know it till now.

J/K. I salute your dedication.

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