Should I get a Z?

Matt · 11-25-2009, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by zmyride

Thanks. As much as i like the Z, i think i'm going to stick with a BMW. I think at $4/gal x 17 gallon tank, that would cost me about $70 per fillup.

22MPG x 17 gal = 374 miles.

I would buy it as a weekend car, but not for everyday commuting.

The BMW 128i (18/26) and 135i (17/25) get nearly the same MPG that the Z (18/26) gets, so I'm not sure why you would value those above the Z. Someone else mentioned the Altima/Maxima...unless you get the 2.5L engine, the mpg only goes up 1 mpg (18/27 and 19/26, respectively) for those cars, so no real benefit in that department.

My Z is my daily driver. Because most of my driving is done at less than 40mph with plenty of stopping, I average about 16-17 mpg. Do I care? Not one bit. I stopped caring after the first tank of gas when I realized I was driving like my grandpa just to keep the mpg meter above 20.

I don't like the styling of either the 1 series BMWs or the Miata. The Z, to me, stands out in it's class...both in terms of performance and styling.

I'm sure the 1 series are nice, but unless I had the bank for at least the 3 series, I would be looking at the Z exclusively in this price range.

As far as price, invoice is a little less than what you were quoted. I would start negotiations at around 30,500 and don't accept anything higher than 31,500.

As far as reliability, as someone pointed out, there's no concrete data on the vehicle yet. I assume, based on Nissan's recent history, that if you take care of the car it'll last well beyond 100k miles with few issues.

zmyride · 11-25-2009, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt

The BMW 128i (18/26) and 135i (17/25) get nearly the same MPG that the Z (18/26) gets, so I'm not sure why you would value those above the Z. Someone else mentioned the Altima/Maxima...unless you get the 2.5L engine, the mpg only goes up 1 mpg (18/27 and 19/26, respectively) for those cars, so no real benefit in that department.

My Z is my daily driver. Because most of my driving is done at less than 40mph with plenty of stopping, I average about 16-17 mpg. Do I care? Not one bit. I stopped caring after the first tank of gas when I realized I was driving like my grandpa just to keep the mpg meter above 20.

I don't like the styling of either the 1 series BMWs or the Miata. The Z, to me, stands out in it's class...both in terms of performance and styling.

I'm sure the 1 series are nice, but unless I had the bank for at least the 3 series, I would be looking at the Z exclusively in this price range.

As far as price, invoice is a little less than what you were quoted. I would start negotiations at around 30,500 and don't accept anything higher than 31,500.

As far as reliability, as someone pointed out, there's no concrete data on the vehicle yet. I assume, based on Nissan's recent history, that if you take care of the car it'll last well beyond 100k miles with few issues.

Thanks Matt. great feedback.

Z definitely stands out, and doesn't look as wimpy as BMW 128. I haven't sold on the BMW yet. kinda 50/50.

I don't understand why the BMW 128 has 200hp and get (18/26) mpg which is the same as the Z. With almost 120 less horsepower than the Z, i thought the 1 would get better mileage. uhm..

280z/300zx · 11-25-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by zmyride

Thanks Matt. great feedback.

Z definitely stands out, and doesn't look as wimpy as BMW 128. I haven't sold on the BMW yet. kinda 50/50.

I don't understand why the BMW 128 has 200hp and get (18/26) mpg which is the same as the Z. With almost 120 less horsepower than the Z, i thought the 1 would get better mileage. uhm..

Horsepower alone does not go hand in hand with gas mileage. It's a combination of HP, torque, weight, drivetrain, width tires, etc. You have much to learn and much to research.

zmyride · 11-25-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx

Horsepower alone does not go hand in hand with gas mileage. It's a combination of HP, torque, weight, drivetrain, width tires, etc. You have much to learn and much to research.

Are you talking about me or the general public?

ho6950 · 11-25-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by zmyride

Are you talking about me or the general public?

That was definitly aimed towards you buddy

zmyride · 11-25-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ho6950

That was definitly aimed towards you buddy

i can bet you if i go to any dealer and ask any salesperson and 5 out of 10 would have no idea what torque mean...

ho6950 · 11-25-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by zmyride

i can bet you if i go to any dealer and ask any salesperson and 5 out of 10 would have no idea what torque mean...

I agree, I was just answering your question wether or not he was talking to you or the general public. You say 5 out of 10, good chance it's more like 7 out of 10