Challenger SRT8 vs. 370Z

ChopsZ · 07-14-2016, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Not every time. I'd rather have a Ford or Chevy than a Mitsubishi. I'd rather have the clap than a Chrysler, though.

This is true to a point. The point being that I would take any car over the clap any day. LOL

COSMO · 07-13-2016, 09:08 PM

Stupid is, stupid does..

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Originally Posted by DavidZ370

saying it like Nissan is so much better lol, it isnt

SiPnPiZ · 07-13-2016, 09:16 PM

i was interested in one until i drove a 1970 423ci Cuda 4 speed, I'd chose the '70 any day even over a new hellcat

ssmoked · 07-13-2016, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Desert Rat

My brother has one of the original 2008 SRT8 challengers with a very low production number (#340 something out of 6400). It's the 425hp 6.1 with an auto, and it has just 5k miles on it. He's been mothballing it for a few years now.

I got a chance to drive it the other day and the first thing I did is got in it and did a standing run to 100mph. The car felt great. It handles well, and it's really comfortable, but honestly, I wasn't impressed with the get up and go. Those extra few hundred pounds over my Z34 give it a fairly close power to weight ratio to my car. I suspect in a flat line drag race the Challenger would edge the Z, but not by a helluva lot. Running through the gears and keeping those shift points around 6k or so with the manual gets the Z moving just about as fast.

I will say the Challenger is a more comfortable car for sure, but while it handles quite well, it's a boat by comparison.

Anyways, it was a non technical seat of the pants impression. His Challenger is in Montana; my Z is in Arizona so we couldn't go head to head, but it was fun getting to flog on another performance icon.

Obviously the newer SRT8s with the 485 HP scat pack are a different ballgame, and the Hellcat is in another league all together. I got a ride recently in the Hellcat too, since a friend of mine bought one. That is one scary fast car! Pretty hard to wipe the smile off your face riding around in one of those.

I ran an 08' 300c srt8 from a dig when I still had the stock AT 370, we were neck to neck up to 90 before we let off on a Mexican back road. I'm sure it will pull on most stock 6mt 370s as computer always shift faster than humans especially from a dig. The newer srt8 just eats our lunch, but doesn't feels as fast while driving it bc of the weight

imjello · 07-14-2016, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Desert Rat

Running through the gears and keeping those shift points around 6k or so with the manual gets the Z moving just about as fast.

The Z makes power all the way up to redline, you can stay on it

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Originally Posted by ssmoked

. I'm sure it will pull on most stock 6mt 370s as computer always shift faster than humans especially from a dig.

you are thinking of a dual clutch transmission, the Z has a traditional automatic transmission. Also autos weight 41 pounds more. And there is more gears in the automatic tranny (7). and flat foot shifting if its tuned. and

ssmoked · 07-14-2016, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by imjello

you are thinking of a dual clutch transmission, the Z has a traditional automatic transmission. Also autos weight 41 pounds more. And there is more gears in the automatic tranny (7). and flat foot shifting if its tuned. and

If you don't know the AT shift faster than the 6mt, you must been living under a rock, never took the Z on the drag and would be gravely disappointed when you line up next to one

Edit: oh wait, you drive a civic

imjello · 07-14-2016, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ssmoked

Edit: oh wait, you drive a civic

a standard civic to match my standard z

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo

Well my SRT8 will spin circles around my Nismo all day long

if your car was an auto it wouldn't lose i'm told

Larso1 · 07-14-2016, 07:25 PM

I guess I've become an electric car proponent, but the results are in. The Tesla Model S with Ludicrous option does 0-60mph in 2.6sec. , which BTW is quicker than a new Z06 Vette with 650hp. Just can't get around that 700+ft/lbs torque of electric grunt at all four corners. The "only" downside as I see it is the $100k+ cost. But hey, it's only money. And we are talking bragging rights here...😀

JC-Nismo · 07-15-2016, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by imjello

if your car was an auto it wouldn't lose i'm told

I seriously doubt that!!!

cv129 · 07-13-2016, 09:37 PM

Japan did have some very significant moments in the past...

89 LS400 - extremely over-engineered, seriously challenged the German big boys.
NA1 NSX - a reliable and user friendly super car (in the old days standard anyway), something the Europeans didn't know exist. Gordan Murray agreed.
09 R35 GTR - heavy pig bending physics to take on 911 Turbo for half the price.

One may add Vtec and Prius to the list. However, outside of them, I personally wouldn't put Japanese in the same pedestal with the Europeans in terms of technological break through.

Ford has such a mature V6 turbo game nowadays (they use that thing everywhere!), where we the Nissan/Infiniti guys are just finally getting a VR38. And oh, Tesla is certainly changing the game again. I still love my Z tho. Keep it simple, keep it NA. I'll ride with this VQ for a long time.

370zEric · 07-14-2016, 07:12 AM

They sound very beasty..

2011 Nismo#91 · 07-14-2016, 07:56 AM

Their both good cars in their own ways. Even they are both sports cars they are built for different purposes and different target demographics so you really can't compare the two.

fantaZ · 07-14-2016, 02:46 PM

This is why. This sh%t doesn't happen in japan.

Chrysler UAW workers caught drinking, smoking pot during lunch

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JC-Nismo · 07-14-2016, 05:26 PM

Well my SRT8 will spin circles around my Nismo all day long with just a tune and CAI, pretty much the same mods I have on my Z. The pull is just night and day, Z's have no torque and straight line performance is not even close. Buy what you like and if you have the money, buy one of each and be INTERNATIONAL, LOL..................

lovemyvq · 07-15-2016, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo

Well my SRT8 will spin circles around my Nismo all day long with just a tune and CAI, pretty much the same mods I have on my Z. The pull is just night and day, Z's have no torque and straight line performance is not even close. Buy what you like and if you have the money, buy one of each and be INTERNATIONAL, LOL..................

Especially the first time you try to carry any speed into a corner! It will definitely spin circles...like all the way into the field or into the concrete embankment. But we're obviously not talking about comparing the Z to a giant metal kleenex box (or refrigerator if you will) on wheels at a road course. Which is where the Z makes it's living. The challenger definitely has the Z beat in a straight line and cruising the main strip with your cousin riding shotgun and your badass mullet whilst heavily breathing through your mouth; but I digress. They're such different cars why bother comparing them. One is a sleek, curved, sexy, efficient track oriented aerodynamic sports car. The other is a...well...big rock for hulk smashing things! Buy one of each and have some relief from your inner cousin kissing, inbred backwood hick whenever you want it!

07-13-2016, 09:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
SiPnPiZ Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 27 Drives: 2011 370z M6 Rep Power: 9	i was interested in one until i drove a 1970 423ci Cuda 4 speed, I'd chose the '70 any day even over a new hellcat ChopsZ likes this. __________________ My Z is my Gym Chariot

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cv129 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,260 Drives: 09 Nismo, 16 Nismo Rep Power: 163995	Japan did have some very significant moments in the past... 89 LS400 - extremely over-engineered, seriously challenged the German big boys. NA1 NSX - a reliable and user friendly super car (in the old days standard anyway), something the Europeans didn't know exist. Gordan Murray agreed. 09 R35 GTR - heavy pig bending physics to take on 911 Turbo for half the price. One may add Vtec and Prius to the list. However, outside of them, I personally wouldn't put Japanese in the same pedestal with the Europeans in terms of technological break through. Ford has such a mature V6 turbo game nowadays (they use that thing everywhere!), where we the Nissan/Infiniti guys are just finally getting a VR38. And oh, Tesla is certainly changing the game again. I still love my Z tho. Keep it simple, keep it NA. I'll ride with this VQ for a long time. ChopsZ likes this. __________________ Setrab \| RE-71 \| SPL \| JRZ \| Nismo \| ARK \| Whiteline \| RacingBrake \| CJM Oil Pan \| Ti shield

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370zEric Base Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Buena Park Age: 38 Posts: 25 Drives: 2016 370z Rep Power: 9	They sound very beasty.. __________________ 2016 Magnetic Black- 6 speed Last edited by 370zEric; 07-14-2016 at 07:15 AM. Reason: did not make sense

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fantaZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: FL Posts: 273 Drives: 2013 370z nismo Rep Power: 10	This is why. This sh%t doesn't happen in japan. Chrysler UAW workers caught drinking, smoking pot during lunch Chrysler UAW workers caught getting drunk, high - again [Video] \| LeftLaneNews sunkist350z likes this.

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JC-Nismo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,244 Drives: 2011 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 13	Well my SRT8 will spin circles around my Nismo all day long with just a tune and CAI, pretty much the same mods I have on my Z. The pull is just night and day, Z's have no torque and straight line performance is not even close. Buy what you like and if you have the money, buy one of each and be INTERNATIONAL, LOL.................. Duc_Z09 likes this.

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Larso1 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Pueblo CO Posts: 98 Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z T M6 Rep Power: 10	I guess I've become an electric car proponent, but the results are in. The Tesla Model S with Ludicrous option does 0-60mph in 2.6sec. , which BTW is quicker than a new Z06 Vette with 650hp. Just can't get around that 700+ft/lbs torque of electric grunt at all four corners. The "only" downside as I see it is the $100k+ cost. But hey, it's only money. And we are talking bragging rights here...😀

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2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,408 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40570	Their both good cars in their own ways. Even they are both sports cars they are built for different purposes and different target demographics so you really can't compare the two.

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