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Okay, we all know this topic has been beaten to death, with some folks insisting that an oil cooler isn't necessary unless you track your Z, and others insisting that
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View Poll Results: Would you be willing to pay for an oil cooler as a factory-installed option? | |||
Yes, I'd be willing to pay up to an additional $500 |
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88 | 61.11% |
Yes, I'd be willing to pay up to an additional $1000 |
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14 | 9.72% |
Yes, and I'd be willing to pay in excess of an additional $1000 |
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5 | 3.47% |
No, I want an oil cooler, but I'm not willing to pay extra for it |
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18 | 12.50% |
No, I have no need or desire for an oil cooler |
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19 | 13.19% |
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Okay, we all know this topic has been beaten to death, with some folks insisting that an oil cooler isn't necessary unless you track your Z, and others insisting that one is in fact necessary, even for regular street use. This thread is not about that. Rather, the intent of this thread/poll is just to see if one way to potentially end all the bickering and recriminations is for Nissan to make it an option (just like Nav, Sport Pkg, etc.), the idea being that those who want an oil cooler could get one, and those who don't wouldn't have to. Everyone gets what they want, and the animosity would cease (hopefully).
Please keep discussion civil. We all have our opinions on this hot topic (no pun intended), and there's no need to re-hash them here. The sole purpose of this poll is to ascertain how many people would actually be willing to pay extra for an oil cooler if Nissan were to offer it as an option. Edit: For the purpose of this poll, it is assumed that as a factory-installed option, an oil cooler would be covered under warranty and would not in any way void Nissan's warranty on the rest of the car.
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Nissan has known about the issue for some time now, why should we pay for a product defect? Thats the way I look at it, the oil cooler should have come already installed as an OEM part.
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![]() "Please keep discussion civil. We all have our opinions on this hot topic (no pun intended), and there's no need to re-hash them here. The sole purpose of this poll is to ascertain how many people would actually be willing to pay extra for an oil cooler if Nissan were to offer it as an option. "
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This debate only degrades itself when people say things like the quote above.
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Voted... I would be happy to pay labor if Nissan ponied up the oil cooler and backed it with a factory warranty. I do believe Nissan dropped the ball in a huge way reference this issue. It currently appears Nissan has zero intentions of even locating the ball they dropped.
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If you intend to run the car at the tracks that is your choice. It takes the car out of the intended use as warranted by the manufacturer. And that is where the majority of reported high oil temps have been reported. If you want to play then you are one who neeeds to pay....NOT the manufacturer and certainly not us customers as a result of people who think your way and then the prices get boosted up Last edited by ZKindaGuy; 11-24-2009 at 03:27 AM. |
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As I've stated before it's all fun and dandy when your Z is covered within the warranty period, but the long term effects is what will get you in the end....and if/when that happens.....you will blame it on Nissan and they will blame it on you. GL to all those that plan on keeping their Z for a long time. I've had 3 VQ engines...two of them being 350Z's......and believe me they all run very hot. It's not the safest/most secure feeling to get all that heat radiating into the cabin. |
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It's 80-90+ degrees mid summer...
1) I'm at NJMP, or Le Circuit MT, or Calabogie, or Limerock Park for an HPDE. I plan on a full tilt interm/advanced group day of tracking. I don't need an oil cooler? 2) I'm in stop and go traffic in Boston, NY, Phili, etc. The pavement is broiling, the traffic is thick. I don't need a oil cooler? ![]() ![]() Just my opinion, but if there are questions that one is needed by some significant % of the people that buy the car (and there is apparently) then it should be either standard to err on the side of safety and lessening warranty issues coming up.... or in a 'track pkg' that can be purchased and dealer installed. That way everyone is happy. IOW, not everyone is happy running an engine on the bleeding edge of acceptable temperature ranges, just because the engineers say it's possible and the engine will last (at least until the warranty runs out). Alternative question. If the Z was a plane, would you be satisfied with the oil temp performance/lack of oil cooler as evidenced by multiple peoples reports on this forum? In that case - your life could depend on it - in the car case, it's potentially (only) your pocketbook. Last edited by 370sed; 11-24-2009 at 07:41 AM. |
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1) yes .track = oil cooler 2) no street driving = no oil cooler I bet Nissan is thinking about removing the oil temperature gauge in future Zs It would end this entire BS |
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