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Okay, we all know this topic has been beaten to death, with some folks insisting that an oil cooler isn't necessary unless you track your Z, and others insisting that

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View Poll Results: Would you be willing to pay for an oil cooler as a factory-installed option?
Yes, I'd be willing to pay up to an additional $500 88 61.11%
Yes, I'd be willing to pay up to an additional $1000 14 9.72%
Yes, and I'd be willing to pay in excess of an additional $1000 5 3.47%
No, I want an oil cooler, but I'm not willing to pay extra for it 18 12.50%
No, I have no need or desire for an oil cooler 19 13.19%
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Old 11-23-2009, 07:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Would you be willing to pay for an oil cooler as a factory-installed option?

Okay, we all know this topic has been beaten to death, with some folks insisting that an oil cooler isn't necessary unless you track your Z, and others insisting that one is in fact necessary, even for regular street use. This thread is not about that. Rather, the intent of this thread/poll is just to see if one way to potentially end all the bickering and recriminations is for Nissan to make it an option (just like Nav, Sport Pkg, etc.), the idea being that those who want an oil cooler could get one, and those who don't wouldn't have to. Everyone gets what they want, and the animosity would cease (hopefully).

Please keep discussion civil. We all have our opinions on this hot topic (no pun intended), and there's no need to re-hash them here. The sole purpose of this poll is to ascertain how many people would actually be willing to pay extra for an oil cooler if Nissan were to offer it as an option.

Edit: For the purpose of this poll, it is assumed that as a factory-installed option, an oil cooler would be covered under warranty and would not in any way void Nissan's warranty on the rest of the car.
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Old 11-23-2009, 07:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Nissan has known about the issue for some time now, why should we pay for a product defect? Thats the way I look at it, the oil cooler should have come already installed as an OEM part.
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Old 11-23-2009, 07:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Nissan has known about the issue for some time now, why should we pay for a product defect? Thats the way I look at it, the oil cooler should have come already installed as an OEM part.
As per the OP's request, please don't turn this into another thread like the ones we already have?

"Please keep discussion civil. We all have our opinions on this hot topic (no pun intended), and there's no need to re-hash them here. The sole purpose of this poll is to ascertain how many people would actually be willing to pay extra for an oil cooler if Nissan were to offer it as an option. "
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:40 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Nissan has known about the issue for some time now, why should we pay for a product defect? Thats the way I look at it, the oil cooler should have come already installed as an OEM part.
How can you say that this is a "product defect"? I have never had any oil temperature issues. Let me say that again... I have NEVER had ANY oil temperature issues. So why would I want an oil cooler?

This debate only degrades itself when people say things like the quote above.
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Voted... I would be happy to pay labor if Nissan ponied up the oil cooler and backed it with a factory warranty. I do believe Nissan dropped the ball in a huge way reference this issue. It currently appears Nissan has zero intentions of even locating the ball they dropped.
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Nissan has known about the issue for some time now, why should we pay for a product defect? Thats the way I look at it, the oil cooler should have come already installed as an OEM part.
There is no defect so there is no reason for Nissan to pay out of their pocket. These cars are made for the street and the oil temperatures are on the whole just fine.

If you intend to run the car at the tracks that is your choice. It takes the car out of the intended use as warranted by the manufacturer. And that is where the majority of reported high oil temps have been reported.

If you want to play then you are one who neeeds to pay....NOT the manufacturer and certainly not us customers as a result of people who think your way and then the prices get boosted up

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There is no defect so there is no reason for Nissan to pay out of their pocket. These cars are made for the street and the oil temperatures are on the whole just fine.

If you intend to run the car at the tracks that is your choice. It takes the car out of the intended use as warranted by the manufacturer. And that is where the majority of reported high oil temps have been reported.

If you want to play then you are one who neeeds to pay....NOT the manufacturer and certainly not us customers as a result of people who think your way and tehn the prices get boosted up
Then why do they put them on every press car?
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Then why do they put them on every press car?
How many of the press cars were taken to the track to be driven at speeds well beyond the legal limits of any public road in the US?
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Then why do they put them on every press car?
Probably because those cars get put through extra-ordinary paces when being evaluated which far exceeds the average driving and is more like race course driving.
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Nissan has known about the issue for some time now, why should we pay for a product defect? Thats the way I look at it, the oil cooler should have come already installed as an OEM part.
I dont own a Z but I agree 100%.
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I dont own a Z but I agree 100%.
Like I and others have said before...it is NOT a defect....you take agreement on something you are NOT fully understanding about....
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Like I and others have said before...it is NOT a defect....you take agreement on something you are NOT fully understanding about....
Actually since many people have reported this problem both on and off the track.....it automatically becomes a manufacturers defect.

As I've stated before it's all fun and dandy when your Z is covered within the warranty period, but the long term effects is what will get you in the end....and if/when that happens.....you will blame it on Nissan and they will blame it on you.

GL to all those that plan on keeping their Z for a long time. I've had 3 VQ engines...two of them being 350Z's......and believe me they all run very hot. It's not the safest/most secure feeling to get all that heat radiating into the cabin.
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No need for an oil cooler in New England............
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No need for an oil cooler in New England............
It's 80-90+ degrees mid summer...

1) I'm at NJMP, or Le Circuit MT, or Calabogie, or Limerock Park for an HPDE. I plan on a full tilt interm/advanced group day of tracking. I don't need an oil cooler?

2) I'm in stop and go traffic in Boston, NY, Phili, etc. The pavement is broiling, the traffic is thick. I don't need a oil cooler?

in hot oil

Just my opinion, but if there are questions that one is needed by some significant % of the people that buy the car (and there is apparently) then it should be either standard to err on the side of safety and lessening warranty issues coming up.... or in a 'track pkg' that can be purchased and dealer installed. That way everyone is happy. IOW, not everyone is happy running an engine on the bleeding edge of acceptable temperature ranges, just because the engineers say it's possible and the engine will last (at least until the warranty runs out).

Alternative question. If the Z was a plane, would you be satisfied with the oil temp performance/lack of oil cooler as evidenced by multiple peoples reports on this forum? In that case - your life could depend on it - in the car case, it's potentially (only) your pocketbook.

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It's 80-90+ degrees mid summer...

1) I'm at NJMP, or Le Circuit MT, or Calabogie, or Limerock Park for an HPDE. I plan on a full tilt interm/advanced group day of tracking. I don't need an oil cooler?

2) I'm in stop and go traffic in Boston, NY, Phili, etc. The pavement is broiling, the traffic is thick. I don't need a oil cooler?

in hot oil

Just my opinion, but if there are questions that one is needed by some significant % of the people that buy the car (and there is apparently) then it should be either standard to err on the side of safety and lessening warranty issues coming up.... or in a 'track pkg' that can be purchased and dealer installed. That way everyone is happy. IOW, not everyone is happy running an engine on the bleeding edge of acceptable temperature ranges, just because the engineers say it's possible and the engine will last (at least until the warranty runs out).

Alternative question. If the Z was a plane, would you be satisfied with the oil temp performance/lack of oil cooler as evidenced by multiple peoples reports on this forum? In that case - your life could depend on it - in the car case, it's potentially (only) your pocketbook.



1)………yes………….track = oil cooler
2)………no……………street driving = no oil cooler

I bet Nissan is thinking about removing the oil temperature gauge in future Z’s

It would end this entire BS
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