Would you be willing to pay for an oil cooler as a factory-installed option?

Pointman · 11-23-2009, 11:00 AM

Voted... I would be happy to pay labor if Nissan ponied up the oil cooler and backed it with a factory warranty. I do believe Nissan dropped the ball in a huge way reference this issue. It currently appears Nissan has zero intentions of even locating the ball they dropped.

molamann · 11-23-2009, 11:04 AM

Did people even read the OP's post?

6MT · 11-23-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by molamann

Did people even read the OP's post?

rcm2525 · 11-23-2009, 11:27 AM

I have the NISMO which should of had it installed as part of the package. My answer is NO I would not pay for a Nissan option because it would probably be to expensive. There are many aftermarket oil coolers to choose from of very high quality.

Now if we are thinking about warranty on the Z as part of the package then that's another issue.

semtex · 11-23-2009, 11:31 AM

If it's factory-installed, it will be covered under warranty. That's the assumption implicit in the poll, anyway. Sorry I didn't make that explicit.

kannibul · 11-23-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

No, according to the OP: The sole purpose of this poll is to ascertain how many people would actually be willing to pay extra for an oil cooler

True, but also consider the test cars for magazine reviewers also had an oil cooler.

It's as if Nissan figured out that they could add some more profit to the cars and that they'd be fine without a cooler for 98% of the buying public, instead of having a slightly lower profit margin, and satisfy 100% of the buying public.

10000 370z's produced, 2% would be 200 cars. Actually, I think that's even a bit high. More like 0.5% would be the number of people who are unhappy that there isn't an oil cooler.

I'm not saying it is an issue, nor am I saying it's not. I do think it's a bit shady to give the magazine reviewers one thing, get the great reviews, then sell something different to the public.

Therefore, that's why I say it'd not be an issue if the car's price increased $500 or less, and came with an oil cooler "as advertised" by magazine reviews.

bullitt5897 · 11-23-2009, 12:29 PM

I would have paid for the extra optional oil cooler for sure! I chose option 1... However, I have a huge 25 row racing cooler coming my way

so I have no worries!

Mag350Z · 11-23-2009, 12:30 PM

It bewilders me to think how much time and money Nissan must have invested in developing the SyncroRevMatch while ignoring this oil temp issue that they are obviously aware of, as evidenced by the installation of oil coolers on magazine tested 370z. Living in South Florida, this is a deal breaker for me. I would gladly pay $500 for a factory installed oil cooler. Should be added to the Sport Package in my opinion.

kenchan · 11-23-2009, 12:34 PM

i dont need one. my oil temps dont get anywhere near that hot like some of you guys might be experiencing on the track.

imho, nissan should release a base Z with sportpackage, nismo sport dampers/springs, CAI/exhaust, and oil cooler installed and call it 'track' trim. no need for the heavy nismo decorations.

ConchZ2 · 11-23-2009, 01:05 PM

[QUOTE=kannibul;292689]"True, but also consider the test cars for magazine reviewers also had an oil cooler".

That’s because every “merkin” face magazine reviewer is going drive it like it’s in a demolition derby!

Merkin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

6MT · 11-23-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mag350Z

Living in South Florida, this is a deal breaker for me.

If that's really the "deal-breaker" for you, I think you should stay away from the 370. Come on... talk about an over-blown issue. If you're going to be driving your 370 hard enough to need an oil cooler (read: tracking the car)... then you shouldn't be buying one.

ConchZ2 · 11-23-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT

If that's really the "deal-breaker" for you, I think you should stay away from the 370. Come on... talk about an over-blown issue. If you're going to be driving your 370 hard enough to need an oil cooler (read: tracking the car)... then you shouldn't be buying one.

I agree 101%

Lug · 11-23-2009, 03:59 PM

An oil cooler is also another point of failure. It could be that the benefits of an added oil cooler could be somewhat offset by the occasional oil line/oil radiator failure. That said, I'd go for option 1 myself.

Zsteve · 11-23-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

I did the whole modshack oil cooler in about an hour and a half. Parts would cost Nissan less than 100. I voted #1, but I think 250 is more reasonable. There really is nothing to compare price to out there, but if you look at what they charge for trailering packages on pickup trucks, which normally included a LSD, trans oil cooler (closest to what we need), and a trailer hitch and wiring, its anywhere from 150-700 package depending on the vehicle.

$250 sounds about right for me for a factory install. It would cost them about $50 bucks with the volume they would do.

kenchan · 11-23-2009, 05:05 PM

considering the validation (testing and documentation) nissan needs to do, the unit price might be that, but the labor and admin costs will boot it up to about a $500-650 option.

View Poll Results: Would you be willing to pay for an oil cooler as a factory-installed option?
Yes, I'd be willing to pay up to an additional $500	88	61.11%
Yes, I'd be willing to pay up to an additional $1000	14	9.72%
Yes, and I'd be willing to pay in excess of an additional $1000	5	3.47%
No, I want an oil cooler, but I'm not willing to pay extra for it	18	12.50%
No, I have no need or desire for an oil cooler	19	13.19%
Voters: 144. You may not vote on this poll

11-23-2009, 11:00 AM	#16 (permalink)
Pointman Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 128 Drives: 370Z Sport/Tour Nav Rep Power: 276	Voted... I would be happy to pay labor if Nissan ponied up the oil cooler and backed it with a factory warranty. I do believe Nissan dropped the ball in a huge way reference this issue. It currently appears Nissan has zero intentions of even locating the ball they dropped. __________________ JTTF SQ8

11-23-2009, 11:27 AM	#19 (permalink)
rcm2525 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mountains of VA Posts: 133 Drives: 370z NISMO PG #0260 Rep Power: 16	I have the NISMO which should of had it installed as part of the package. My answer is NO I would not pay for a Nissan option because it would probably be to expensive. There are many aftermarket oil coolers to choose from of very high quality. Now if we are thinking about warranty on the Z as part of the package then that's another issue. __________________ ____ "To live outside the law you must be honest" - B.D.

11-23-2009, 11:31 AM	#20 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	If it's factory-installed, it will be covered under warranty. That's the assumption implicit in the poll, anyway. Sorry I didn't make that explicit. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

11-23-2009, 12:29 PM	#22 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	I would have paid for the extra optional oil cooler for sure! I chose option 1... However, I have a huge 25 row racing cooler coming my way so I have no worries! __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

11-23-2009, 11:04 AM	#17 (permalink)
molamann A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,666 Drives: 370Z with NAVVVVV Rep Power: 284	Did people even read the OP's post?

11-23-2009, 12:30 PM	#23 (permalink)
Mag350Z Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 95 Drives: 2011 GS Corvette Rep Power: 16	SyncroRevMatch Great, Oil Temp Not So Much It bewilders me to think how much time and money Nissan must have invested in developing the SyncroRevMatch while ignoring this oil temp issue that they are obviously aware of, as evidenced by the installation of oil coolers on magazine tested 370z. Living in South Florida, this is a deal breaker for me. I would gladly pay $500 for a factory installed oil cooler. Should be added to the Sport Package in my opinion.

11-23-2009, 12:34 PM	#24 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	i dont need one. my oil temps dont get anywhere near that hot like some of you guys might be experiencing on the track. imho, nissan should release a base Z with sportpackage, nismo sport dampers/springs, CAI/exhaust, and oil cooler installed and call it 'track' trim. no need for the heavy nismo decorations.

11-23-2009, 01:05 PM	#25 (permalink)
ConchZ2 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: connecticut Posts: 329 Drives: 09 370Z red 6sp sprt Rep Power: 16	[QUOTE=kannibul;292689]"True, but also consider the test cars for magazine reviewers also had an oil cooler". That’s because every “merkin” face magazine reviewer is going drive it like it’s in a demolition derby! Merkin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

11-23-2009, 03:59 PM	#28 (permalink)
Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 19	An oil cooler is also another point of failure. It could be that the benefits of an added oil cooler could be somewhat offset by the occasional oil line/oil radiator failure. That said, I'd go for option 1 myself. __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

11-23-2009, 05:05 PM	#30 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	considering the validation (testing and documentation) nissan needs to do, the unit price might be that, but the labor and admin costs will boot it up to about a $500-650 option.

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