Rev Match daily driving
 

I daily drive my 2016 sport with manual trans and I just always leave it in "S" mode / rev match. I find that I have to be careful when coming off the interstate or slowing down from higher speeds. The rev match thinks I'm going to down shift but all I want to do is throw it in nuetral and use the brakes. Every time you throw it in neutral it just free revs like crazy, especially at highway speeds. Does this bother anyone else? Is it okay to leave in in S mode for daily driving?

It is OK to leave in S Mode. The only downside is in residential or business areas when I am coming to a stop ad the engine blips. People have looked at me as if I was doing it on purpose.

I have read reports of this before. Why have the feature on if your not going to use it though? I would just downshift!

And yes it is ok to use daily

Terribleone: yea I use it for down shifting, it's more like it I forget about sometimes while coming off of the interstate and it definitely surprises me when it blips to almost red line when I throw it into neutral. I usually remember to turn it off when I use highways. Also it's easy to forget about when you're driving longer distances. I did a muffler delete on my car so I definitely notice it when it blips like that lol

I am about a 50/50 user. Sometimes it does seem that we are "blipping" the throttle on purpose; sort of like a Harley or crotch rocket revving the engine at every stop light :)

I'm 65 and have been heel and toeing my whole driving life so I never use it. I tried it when I first bought the car, but I couldn't help blipping the throttle myself. I always coast coming from higher speeds. Sure cheaper to replace brakes than a clutch.

Just leave it in gear and don't shift into neutral if you don't want to downshift. There's absolutely no reason to put it in neutral.

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It sounds like you're at relatively high speeds going into neutral. If you want to save clutch wear, don't downshift if you know you're eventually coming to a stop, and then go to neutral around the 20-15mph mark. You lose a lot of potential vehicle control while at neutral at higher speeds.

At least, this is the advice I was given from experienced drivers when I was taught manual. There really is no favorable reason to go neutral from high gear. Well, not to my knowledge anyway.

At 15-20mph you can still be in third. If I'm lazy I'll come to an almost stop and then go from third to neutral. Usually I like to go into second so I can hear the songs of joy.

I dd to dt toronto and back into suburbs in the evening occasionally. Rev matching makes it easier.

Also to say I tend to sit in first /2nd as there isn't usually a full stop. If I'm 2nd come to full stop then slip into first and let the engine putter along until I need to gas.

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Right, but it sounds like the op doesn't want to downshift and could be jumping into neutral from 6th or 5th at relatively high speeds. I've stayed in 5th down to 15mph then to Neutral if I don't want to DS, on a relatively safe stretch of road.

I definitely use the rev match (hence why I always leave it on). I was just referring to the occasional mishap where I would forget it was on and it would rev like heck at higher speeds (usually when coming off of I-75). I daily drive Cincinnati traffic and the rev match definitely makes it a lot easier and fun to get around. There's just been those few occasions when that blip of throttle would catch me by surprise.

i owned an 09 sport for 3 years and kept switching it off/on all the time because i loved the down shifts but hated up shifts and occasional red lines on highway, so i bought a base supercharged and bleep it myself, its easy and i feel more like a race car driver

Mishaps happen, nothing to be concerned about. Your initial post implies you do it often.

FWIW, the owner's manual has minimum operating speeds for each gear. You can stay in 6th gear down to 35 mph. The minimum speeds for each gear are around 1200-1500 RPMs for reference.

may as well just get a prious...

;)

Real drivers only need two gears in the Z. 1st gear redlines at 35 mph. 6th gear for anything over 35 mph. Downshifting is :eek: but you just get a new transmission under warranty every 5K miles or so :icon17:

I would, except mine doesn't work. :mad:

Could it be the OP's technique that's causing the revs to shoot up?

We don't have rev matching in the G so it's up to the driver to do it if they want a smooth shift. For the life of me I can't heel/toe, but can manually rev match relatively well most of the time.

I've found the smoothest way to downshift is clutch in (pedal depressed) is to do so right at the point where the trans is neither loaded or unloaded. I get no unexpected rpm spikes this way. Perhaps the OP is depressing the clutch too soon before easing off the throttle?

That said, I don't know how the logic in the 370z rev match works exactly. Is it actually expecting a shift to the next lower gear, or any lower gear? I figure if the latter, it'd be blipping the throttle based on the appropriate rpm for that specific gear. Neutral is not a gear.

SRM anticipates which gear you are going into when you pass near the gate. Since the neutral position for the shifter is between 3-4 gear, downshifting from 5th or 6th gear into neutral will always trigger the rev match because it thinks you want to go to 3rd or 4th gear. If you move the shifter back and forth in the neutral position, SRM will react as you pass each gear gate according to your speed.

JAR describes the OP's scenario exactly.

From high speed, if OP wants to coast in neutral with SRM on - When shifting out of 5th or 6th, keep it in the space between 5th and 6th just for a moment instead of letting the shifter bounce to its natural position in the middle right away. Once SRM knows you are not going into another gear, rev will free fall instead of up or hold. At that point OP is safe to let the stick to its natural position.

Why throw it into neutral ................... leave it in gear and shift to an appropriate lower gear as the car slows ...........

Sorry, do not understand the rationale behind your "technique"

Ah, nice idea. I'll have to see if that works.

:iagree: Don't move the stick to the left when shifting to neutral at higher speed.

the engine would rev quite high if it thinks you're down shifting into 1st or 2nd gear.

Don't think it would hurt anything with the rev limiter, just a bit annoying.

Why u throw it into neutral and use the brakes? Use engine braking or just get a AT car..

What he said. ^

An old time racer from Germany told me no reason to ever put in N, save breaks by using engine breaking and if you ever need to move out of the way quickly when coming off an off ramp car is in gear and you can maybe get out of the way in neutral you would be done.

^THIS^ I do this on a somewhat regular basis (mostly off-ramps) and it works.

I know opinions will differ, but for me if I can coast down from a relatively high speed versus hitting all the downshifts to come to a stop, why wouldn't I? I would rather put the wear on the brake pads than the clutch, transmission, and engine. I would rather pay to replace brake pads than any of the other components ($$).

It's completely up to you, but it's worth noting that if you're in neutral in relatively high speeds, you have a lot less control of the vehicle should you need to make any sudden course changes for emergencies. In this case, it's not about brake or clutch wear, but vehicle safety.

The way I do it, if I know I'm going to decelerate to a stop, is leave in 6th or 5th and use the brakes till near the moment of stopping before setting in N, if I don't feel like downshifting is necessary. I would still have some acceleration control if needed, but still less wear on clutch.

Again, how you drive is up to you. But at least know that your control is much more limited while in Neutral. You don't have to take my word for it. Pro drivers and trainers can give you the same info.

Finally had the chance to try this out this morning on my drive to work. Works perfect! Thank you all for the advice :driving:

This is how I do it too, I'm a new MT driver with this car so I've been playing around with different ways and started with putting it in neutral early, figured it wasn't the safest thing to do so I'll either downshift (still practising) or leave it in gear until the last minute when I know for sure I'm coming to a stop.

Since I bought my Z and after 25k miles I have yet to shut off the S mode feature, I use it to downshift instead of braking...:driving: