A 370Z in the snow

Duc_Z09

They're what came on my nismo so I assumed they were stock. A previous owner could have installed them since I'm the 3rd owner of this car. They certainly don't like snow.

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Duc_Z09

Just because you can use a scalpel to chop wood doesn't mean you should, or that it's a good idea. Park it and buy a winter beater. If you can't afford a second vehicle you can't afford a sports car.

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Joe1561

I drove a fwd shitty car with a donut on one of the front tires in the snow and it all depended on how I drove which I would watch how i do with the 370z. My roomie also has a challenger that makes it through the snow.. so all in all i think it depends on
1. How you drive
2. Tires,(idk what rims hace to do with it)
3. A keen eye on everyone else driving

Duc_Z09

1. Well duh.
2. Skinny rims = more weight per square inch of rubber = better in snow
3. See number 1. This applies in good weather, too.

Your roomie's Challenger weighs about 1,000lbs more than your Z. And I have no doubt it sucks in the snow too compared to say, oh I dunno, my Jeep. Or any AWD car with decent tires. Or even a Camry with all-season tread.

The Z is a shitty winter car. Period. If you're willing to put up with it (and it sounds like you're trying to convince yourself to) then by all means drive it through the snow. Just remember that you're "getting away with it" not because it's a good idea or the car was designed for it, but because 98% of the time you'll be OK provided everything works out how you expect it to. The other 2% of the time you're going to be screwed.

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cofo11

Number 2 is incorrect by the way, unless you're also running a much skinnier tire. The only thing that will do with a similar sized tire is change the shape of the contact patch, not the area.

Changing the shape of the patch can be a good thing as well though. Narrower bites through rather than rides on top and potentially gets better traction due to that.

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Joe1561

You sound angry

Duc_Z09

Because I've seen this same thread dozens of times. On motorcycle forums it usually goes like this:

a) Hi everyone, I'm a brand new rider and I've always wanted a GSXR1000. Would this be a good bike for a beginner? It's only 190hp and my mom's Accord makes like 270...

b) Me: No. These machines are dedicated blahblahblah... lots of technical ******** newbs don't understand.

c) Newb: Oh but I'm really responsible and I won't ride it fast.

d) Me: It's not about responsibility, it's about experience blahblahblah... more advice someone who doesn't really want advice is going to ignore.

e) Newb: I know I'm going to be different.

f) 2-3 months later: a thread titled RIP Stup1dN00B_1000rr

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Joe1561

its my dream car, if i can afford it now then I want it.(actually the 350z is my dream car, but I want the newer version) And I would take your advice if you didn't seem so hostile.

Duc_Z09

I'm actually trying to save you some grief. If you can afford a 370 (buy used, btw) then you can also afford a $3k beater for when it snows. You're going to find out soon that you don't want salt and calcium on your nice car anyway, and Nissan paint is notorious for being weak.

As far as driving a RWD sports car in the snow... let's just say I have some experience. I "got away with it" for 14 winters. Until one day I didn't.

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Duc_Z09

My entire point is that in the snow a 370z is a lot worse off than most vehicles. It's not my mom's AWD Volvo, it's not my lifted 4x4 Jeep, it's not even a Subaru Legacy. Hell, it's worse than my wife's Mustang. If you have uncommon skill and a bit of luck you can drive one... until about 5" of white stuff anyway. But why would you?

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DeliriousClam

1: starts snowing even though there was no snow called for that day and took it to work.
2: Fun

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cofo11

I have to ask what sort of Jeep you have, unless it's an XJ, Unlimited, LJ, or something with a comparable wheelbase, I'm assuming YJ, TJ, JK, CJ, etc., it's a terrible snow vehicle, on public roads, for a single very obvious reason.

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Duc_Z09

Salvage title WJ. It goes through snow like a champ. County plows, ATVs and myself were basically all that was moving on this day last January.

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James10694

I beg to differ wit that one. Have you seen the memes?!? That's on dry pavement!
Seriously tho, can it be done with good winter tires and wheels? Maybe.
Should you risk it? Probably not
Would i? Definitely not

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TreeSemdyZee

I've been driving mine in the snow since 2009. It's actually quite fun in the snow with full snow tires.

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