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Old 06-02-2016, 10:58 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I'm going to have both.
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https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...9572/overview/

found this beauty, kinda wanna make a quick decision and act on it...
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found this beauty, kinda wanna make a quick decision and act on it...
If it checks out it is worth it. I paid 32k for my 2013 with 7794 miles. My car was just about perfect though.
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Im gonna see if I can get him to come down to around 32-33k.
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Old 06-07-2016, 03:30 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I'd try and get them to come way down. You have to consider that if you were to try and sell it even 6 months from now you'd probably only get 25-30k for it. When buying used you should always try to aim for a price point that should you sell it in a short period of time you can usually break even. Unfortunately the Z doesn't hold it's value very well. I sold my 2010 NISMO in 2014 for 25k. I think if you can nab this one for 30k you'd be doing really well. At 35k it's a bit expensive.

As I mentioned before though, for 35k you can buy yourself a newer car that is much better. Assuming you aren't dead set on the Z body itself.

Also have you test driven a NISMO? I would really encourage you to get some seat time with it. And not some 5min drive around the block either. The suspension is super rough on the NISMO. Probably the roughest of any car I've been in short of a track only car. I daily drove mine for 4 years without much issue as I just got used to it buy my girlfriend at the time hated it. And she wasn't some prissy type. She drove sports cars herself with her car at the time being a 2014 Camaro 1LE. I'm just saying, the NISMO is not cush at all. Some people love it and others hate it. I was much happier when I went to my Vette GS. Same level of handling without the harshness
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As a guy who owned a sport/touring Z and a NISMO Z I would tell you that for the money you would spend on a 2014 Z or 2015 Challenger there are much heavier wanna be sports cars to buy. The Z is heavily dated at this point and still keeps up with exhaust mods, it's not worth buying if you only care about having updated tech that does absolutely nothing to improve the performance and handling with the extra weight it brings to the table. If it were me I'd be looking at a new Camaro SS or Mustang if you want a bloated overweight car that handles like a fat a55 with kankles around corners. Don't get me wrong, the Z is an awesome car, but compared to other options it's very dated tech, there are other cars with blingy eye catching carrots that will distract you from their all round lackluster performance.
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Well after looking around at different cars and different pricing/financing options. I found out what I want to go with. A brand new 2016 Stingray, base model 6 speed. I can afford one with a nice down payment and 84 month financing and my credit is 750+ so I can get a could approval and interest rate. It seems to be the best performing car for its price and it looks hella mean, IMO.
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Well after looking around at different cars and different pricing/financing options. I found out what I want to go with. A brand new 2016 Stingray, base model 6 speed. I can afford one with a nice down payment and 84 month financing and my credit is 750+ so I can get a could approval and interest rate. It seems to be the best performing car for its price and it looks hella mean, IMO.
This is not a personal judgement; just a few questions for you to explore internally.

You're saying that you would finance a car for seven years? Seven? With a "nice down payment?" My mortgage term is fifteen years.

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Well I have 6 years left on my home until its paid for. I have no other bills aside from utilities. Im 25 and I've been lucky enough to get set up like I am. I have a great job (now). With a steady 4k-7k increase in salary for the next 4 years that is definite. So I figure if I am gonna buy something that I am going to keep until the wheels fall off, I might as well go big. I mean, it would be one thing if it put me in a bind or kept me from saving money on the side for other things but it won't. Yeah, I'll have a $600 note but I'm going to have one hell of a car. Plus, that note is only $150 more than my note was on my Z, the only difference is the size of the down payment I am putting on the car.
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And I know...this thread went from 370z vs Challenger to Corvette, lol. You know how it is when it comes to cars. I'll probably change my mind 100 times. I've just never bought anything new before and I figured 84 months financing was a good option because otherwise, I wouldn't buy a car that expensive.
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And I know...this thread went from 370z vs Challenger to Corvette, lol. You know how it is when it comes to cars. I'll probably change my mind 100 times. I've just never bought anything new before and I figured 84 months financing was a good option because otherwise, I wouldn't buy a car that expensive.
That's a bad path to take, no vehicle is worth financing over 84 months. You are just 25 year's old, would you still like driving the Corvette everyday by the time you're 32? A lot changes in 7 years, might even have a recession or something lol.

Now, I've personally gone through that path and almost decided on leasing a scat pack then thought about corvettes and Camaro SS's but in the end decided that the most financially sound choice is a few years old used Z..

I'm only 19 so you probably have more experience than me but personally i would never have a 600$ payment on a car unless it's a GTR or something better.

If i were to do it again with a full time job and not being a student, I would definitely get the new Camaro SS as it's the best new performance value IMO.

It's my next vehicle choice as soon as they depreciate a little.

As for people calling the Camaro heavy, It's only 300 pounds heavier than the Z, has 2 more seats, better tech, better safety, and about 150 more horses. Also kills any stock Z in every performance category, so what's the point?
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Well tbh, the "Z51" outperforms a lot of cars, even the GTR in "some" cases. Not in a drag race, of course. But I've seen it beat a newer GTR around a track. There's actually a video on edmunds of it. They were comparing the Z51 vette to cars like the GTR, Viper, etc, etc. It came in 2nd to the Viper. So the way I look at it is, im basically paying for a car that has amazing potential and capability for way less than say...a GTR. I'm a huge fan of the GTR, just not its price tag. And I'm just not seeing the bad in financing a car for 84 months other than a little increase in interest. Regardless if its paid for or not, it'll be worth the same amount of money whether its paid off in 6 years or 7 years, granted that I'm paying a little more in interest.
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Well I will be honest with you. If I could get that 2014 Nismo I posted in the thread earlier for closer to 30-31k, I would jump on that and be happy. I've sent the dealership a email requesting to speak to someone about the car and if we could work out a deal but so far, no reply. The dealership is about 350 miles away in Fort Worth, Texas. So it wouldn't be a bad drive at all.
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Well tbh, the "Z51" outperforms a lot of cars, even the GTR in "some" cases. Not in a drag race, of course. But I've seen it beat a newer GTR around a track. There's actually a video on edmunds of it. They were comparing the Z51 vette to cars like the GTR, Viper, etc, etc. It came in 2nd to the Viper. So the way I look at it is, im basically paying for a car that has amazing potential and capability for way less than say...a GTR. I'm a huge fan of the GTR, just not its price tag. And I'm just not seeing the bad in financing a car for 84 months other than a little increase in interest. Regardless if its paid for or not, it'll be worth the same amount of money whether its paid off in 6 years or 7 years, granted that I'm paying a little more in interest.
A lot can change over that long of a note. The rule of thumb is that "if you can't afford to buy the car on a three year note, you can't afford the car". Over an 84 month term, you'll pay a lot more in interest. Your situation may change. Nothing is definite in employment. Just ask all of the guys who were making bank working in the oil country.

If you do make this poor financial decision, at least call your insurance company and see what they would charge you for gap insurance. It's often much cheaper than at the dealer. You don't want to have something happen and be paying on a car that got wrecked or stolen.

You say you have no other bills except utilities - does that mean that you've got a 6 month emergency fund saved up and you max out your retirement contributions? If that's the case, this isn't the worst idea you could have. If you're not doing that, start and see if you can still afford the Vette. You'll be very happy you did later in life.
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