Torn between two beasts.

280z/300zx

As a guy who owned a sport/touring Z and a NISMO Z I would tell you that for the money you would spend on a 2014 Z or 2015 Challenger there are much better cars to buy. The Z is heavily dated at this point and not worth buying unless you don't care about having dated tech. If it were me I'd be looking at a new Camaro SS or Mustang. Don't get me wrong, the Z is an awesome car, but compared to other options it's very dated with regard to performance and inside tech.

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Nismodean

Fixed

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ChopsZ

Honestly, who cares about this?

The Z, dated or not is a proven design that works great and you know damn well will last years without issue, even if you hammer on it on a daily basis.

All of these new American muscle cars are like the old ones. They just rely on brute force to get them down the road. No style, no refinement, no quality, no character. They're getting better at maneuvering through corners, but still not great, except maybe the latest Z06 Vette. The interior styling in all of them suck (cheap, fake plastic chrome, carbon fiber, aluminum look), the exterior on most of them suck, again with the exception of the Vette, although the ***-end of the new Vettes are horrible.

The Z on the other hand, as well as just about every other Japanese and European car has great styling, quality and refinement as well as being quite capable of going through corners very well.

Granted, the new Mustangs are great looking cars and are supposed to be pretty good in the corners as well (and the new 5.0 sounds excellent). I was actually considering one before getting the Z, but after sitting in a new Mustang and touching/looking at that nasty interior was more than enough for me to happily go with the Z.

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Davey

I agree. People can't quit magazine racing, driving around thinking "Oh my car traps 107 in the quarter mile, yours only does 103" or feeling secure in the fact that their car is .1 seconds quicker to 60 MPH (as tested by someone who probably drives much better than them).

The numbers are much better on the Mustang; skid pad, 1/4 mile, horsepower, torque, etc. but drive them both, it's a completely different experience.

The Mustang is heavy, the steering is slow and numb, there is lots of body roll due to the soft suspension. It goes like hell when you drop the hammer, and it corners well, but it's a GT car through and through.

The Z... Well, it's a better sports coupe. Tight, connected, great feedback.

I'd rather take the Mustang on a 1000 mile drive but if I'm driving just for fun it's definitely not the best choice for me. Unless you can't drive and just want to mash the gas in a straight line (or halfway through a turn exiting Cars and Coffee) or you are actually getting paid to set record lap times, I can't see how it would be for anyone looking for a driver's car*, but maybe that's just me.


*I mean a driver's car, not a magazine racer's car.

Spstone

Was having this chat with some of the young guys in my club last night. Horsepower isn't every thing and magazine numbers aren't always repeatable. Which then led to a discussion on brakes and suspension which not a single one had thought about while trying to build HP. It was actually one of the more productive meetings we have had.