Oil cooler installation

cab83_750 · 11-20-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

That shouldn't have been the case (near 280 degrees on the street) but may have been part of your engine issues. See how the new one is...I'm betting it will be much better!

Yeah. I have taken that into account. BTW dealer said my car is ready as of 10 min ago.

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We shall see.

Modshack · 11-20-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

Do you think that using a 210 degree thermostat would help? In theory it should be more closed at temperatures approaching 180 degrees and allow the oil to heat up a little faster.

I honestly don't think so.....Getting a thermo plate with anything but a 180- opening point would be a special order. 180 is the standard. I'm not sure the higher temp would change the warm up bleed rate.

My temps range from 180-210 under virtually all conditions with my Cooler.

ChrisSlicks · 11-20-2009, 05:28 PM

I found a 215 degree bypass unit for $143. A bit more expensive than the thermostatic plate, plus a passive plate is still required.

alan93rsa · 11-21-2009, 09:05 AM

If you want to go the high end route check out the Canton Mecca offerings. BTW Canton recommends 215F for the opening point. I've used their products with great success on other cars.

www.cantonracingproducts.com

Modshack · 11-21-2009, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

I found a 215 degree bypass unit for $143. A bit more expensive than the thermostatic plate, plus a passive plate is still required.

If it's a pure Bypass and not a bleed like the Thermostatic plate, then that might be a good thing. Seems it would keep the oil in the 215-220 range when the cooler is kicked in..

ChrisSlicks · 11-21-2009, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack

If it's a pure Bypass and not a bleed like the Thermostatic plate, then that might be a good thing. Seems it would keep the oil in the 215-220 range when the cooler is kicked in..

I sent a message to Canton Racing to find out. It has 4 fittings, the primary send and return lines, and the secondary send and return lines to the cooler. It says it is a bypass but doesn't say whether it is absolute or not or at what temperature it begins opening vs being fully open.

Modshack · 11-21-2009, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

I sent a message to Canton Racing to find out. It has 4 fittings, the primary send and return lines, and the secondary send and return lines to the cooler. It says it is a bypass but doesn't say whether it is absolute or not or at what temperature it begins opening vs being fully open.

Let us know Chris....Mocal also has an outboard thermostat for considerably less $$...Guess we need to find that out as well..I'll shoot them an email..

ChrisSlicks · 11-23-2009, 04:56 PM

Canton Racing replied.

They stated that the thermostat is a complete bypass, with no flow to cooler until the oil temp reaches 215 degrees. I wasn't able to get them to tell me exact opening and closing temperatures, but if it was centered around 215 or began opening at 215 it would be great.

The price is $143 from LPI Racing, plus more $$ for the extra fittings and lines.

Expensive but seems like a much better solution, especially people like me where the fall and spring can be pretty cold. Plus I plan on using the 34 row Setrab so I definitely don't want any circulation going through that giant cooler until I need it.

Modshack · 11-23-2009, 06:18 PM

Thanks Chris....I dug a little more into the Mocal external hermostat. Turns out it works just like the take-off plates:

Quote:

Cold oil enters the
thermostat and is bypassed through the center of the
unit returning to engine (figure 1). During warm-up
the thermostat never closes off oil flow to the cooler,
rather, it offers a less restrictive path for the oil to flow*
allowing the cooler to acclimate to system
temperature. As oil warms to 180 degrees (200 in high
temp versions) the operating "waxstat" closes the
bypass permitting full flow to cooler (figure 2).
*percentage of oil bypass can vary up to the point
where the bypass is closed and full flow to the cooler

Flow diagrams on page 3 at the link: http://97.74.103.94/files/thermos$.p...t1=Get+Pricing

Looks ike the Canton is the only full shut-off option out there (so far)

370Zsteve · 11-23-2009, 07:58 PM

nice detective work, guys!

11-21-2009, 09:05 AM	#19 (permalink)
alan93rsa Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 412 Drives: 16 Cayman GT4 Red Rep Power: 221	If you want to go the high end route check out the Canton Mecca offerings. BTW Canton recommends 215F for the opening point. I've used their products with great success on other cars. www.cantonracingproducts.com __________________ 16 Cayman GT4, Carmine Red, Buckets, PCCB etc.

11-23-2009, 07:58 PM	#25 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 43	nice detective work, guys! __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

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ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 654	I found a 215 degree bypass unit for $143. A bit more expensive than the thermostatic plate, plus a passive plate is still required.

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ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 654	Canton Racing replied. They stated that the thermostat is a complete bypass, with no flow to cooler until the oil temp reaches 215 degrees. I wasn't able to get them to tell me exact opening and closing temperatures, but if it was centered around 215 or began opening at 215 it would be great. The price is $143 from LPI Racing, plus more $$ for the extra fittings and lines. Expensive but seems like a much better solution, especially people like me where the fall and spring can be pretty cold. Plus I plan on using the 34 row Setrab so I definitely don't want any circulation going through that giant cooler until I need it.