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370zproject 11-18-2009 01:18 PM

start and walk away its cold!
 
ok so i just tested a theory that u can start ur z and walk away with the key in your pocket and it warm up its working im sitting in my room :)

JungleB 11-18-2009 01:27 PM

Nice! This is something I'm gonna do once the days get cold!

370zproject 11-18-2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleB (Post 285741)
Nice! This is something I'm gonna do once the days get cold!

just make sure u lock ur doors
so no one can drive off with ur z >.>

WhiskeyHotel 11-18-2009 01:31 PM

And make sure you bring the fob with you when you leave!

mattkim85 11-18-2009 01:31 PM

dont mean to be rude, but you just found that out?

370zproject 11-18-2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mattkim85 (Post 285753)
dont mean to be rude, but you just found that out?

just now getting cold here

MindFusion FX 11-18-2009 01:39 PM

it'll run without the fob until you shut it off

vipor 11-18-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mattkim85 (Post 285753)
dont mean to be rude, but you just found that out?

:icon17:

I do it all the time when the gf or someone is with me when I am running into the house for something, running in to a convenience store, or whatever else. Just beeps 3 times when you shut the door. You can actually lock the doors too.

I actually utilized this before work this morning to get the front defroster going. All of 3 mins and I was good.

370zproject 11-18-2009 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MindFusion FX (Post 285763)
it'll run without the fob until you shut it off

yep

G37Sam 11-18-2009 01:49 PM

I don't mean to sound rude, but do Z's not come with a user manual? haha just kidding :D

vipor 11-18-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 285784)
I don't mean to sound rude, but do Z's not come with a user manual? haha just kidding :D

http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/19580.../yoda-rtfm.jpg

chuckd05 11-18-2009 03:39 PM

the doors wont lock if you get out and lock the doors if the key fob is in your car.... its idiot proof

G37Sam 11-18-2009 03:47 PM

And how exactly are you going to lock the car without the keyfob (that's inside) if you're outside?

MindFusion FX 11-18-2009 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05 (Post 285974)
the doors wont lock if you get out and lock the doors if the key fob is in your car.... its idiot proof

did you try it? :D

MindFusion FX 11-18-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 285984)
And how exactly are you going to lock the car without the keyfob (that's inside) if you're outside?

good point..you'd have to leave it in the car..lock it after you get out and close the door. i think you'd lock the key in there that way...

but then again..it will also open since the key is there...does that mean any a mugger can open the door from the outside if he wants 2 rob u?

xjrx 11-18-2009 03:52 PM

its generally not recommended to let a cold motor idle in those temperatures...you should only give it about 30 sec or so to get the oil moving throughout and then proceeed with a light foot. this will decrease the amount of time the engine is operating at colder temperatures

John Bradley 11-18-2009 03:53 PM

Is it really cold in Memphis ??

avitech 11-18-2009 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 285748)
just make sure u lock ur doors
so no one can drive off with ur z >.>

This is good to know. I noticed people already do this with their Mercedes and BMWs. As for someone running of with the Z that is heating up. I wonder if the car shuts down since the key needs to be physically inside the car for it to go into "drive". It can sense that they key is no longer inside the car I suppose. Probably the would be thief wouldn't get very far. You can easily test this theory by starting up the car and placing the key in the house and to try driving off without the key with you.

chuckd05 11-18-2009 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 285984)
And how exactly are you going to lock the car without the keyfob (that's inside) if you're outside?

you open your door and hit the Lock button on the inside of the door as you are getting out :p:p , dont need the key to do that so it can still be inside of the car, it will beep like crazy and re-open your doors

and yea i tried it just to see what happens... we have 2 fobs anyway so why not...

on my buddies bmw 550i he can lock his car, put his fob in the trunk and close it and it will beep at him and open his trunk again, pretty awesome imo

vipor 11-18-2009 04:12 PM

My gfs G35 does the same thing with the trunk.

My guess is that the button on the handle doesn't work while the car is running, only the interior switches, auto lock/unlock, and the lock/unlock buttons on the keyfob itself.

vipor 11-18-2009 04:13 PM

No I haven't tried it yet to find out for myself. :p

Paul_S 11-18-2009 04:47 PM

It's against the law the leave a car running unattended in the UK!

But I might try it anyway ;)

vash_241987 11-18-2009 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by avitech (Post 286002)
This is good to know. I noticed people already do this with their Mercedes and BMWs. As for someone running of with the Z that is heating up. I wonder if the car shuts down since the key needs to be physically inside the car for it to go into "drive". It can sense that they key is no longer inside the car I suppose. Probably the would be thief wouldn't get very far. You can easily test this theory by starting up the car and placing the key in the house and to try driving off without the key with you.

Reminds me of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMjvs3k5XXQ :happydance:

molamann 11-18-2009 04:54 PM

Haha, great find. +1

vipor 11-18-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul_S (Post 286058)
It's against the law the leave a car running unattended in the UK!

But I might try it anyway ;)

same law here. they run away with your car, your fault. but oh well

WhiskeyHotel 11-18-2009 05:04 PM

Nice vid - notice that the Corvette crosses the yellow line once and cuts the corner. Very bad form.

kdo2milger 11-18-2009 05:06 PM

in germany i had a wesbastos heater in my bmr...

Preheating systems
Webasto's remote-operated, engine-off preheating systems provide the tangible benefits of warmth and window defrost while offering an environmentally friendly alternative to remote-start. By eliminating extended idling of the engine to heat the passenger compartment, Webasto’s preheater greatly reduces emissions and fuel consumption while increasing safety and security.

Your winter drives will never be the same. Webasto heaters deliver the same level of comfort you get when you are into your warm home and out of the cold. Webasto heaters preheat your engine, defrost your windows, and warm your interior before you even start your vehicle.

i had the dash mounted display pad for programming times to turn it on like a alarm setting...

now there is the key fob, and the ability to turn it on thru your cell phone...

http://www.webasto-usa.com/webasto.jpg
http://www.rd-automobile.de/uploads/...r1533gr_01.jpg
http://www.rd-automobile.de/uploads/...ssel_lo_01.jpg
http://www.rd-automobile.de/uploads/...y_v1_lo_01.jpg

Modshack 11-18-2009 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by avitech (Post 286002)
I wonder if the car shuts down since the key needs to be physically inside the car for it to go into "drive". It can sense that they key is no longer inside the car I suppose. Probably the would be thief wouldn't get very far. You can easily test this theory by starting up the car and placing the key in the house and to try driving off without the key with you.

Yup....You can drive it til it runs out of gas without the key once it's running.....

davidyan 11-18-2009 11:05 PM

I still wouldnt let the car warm up too long, not good to idle continuously for a long time...

370zproject 11-19-2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by John Bradley (Post 285997)
Is it really cold in Memphis ??

it got to 42 yesterday

370zproject 11-19-2009 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 286392)
Yup....You can drive it til it runs out of gas without the key once it's running.....

yea i dont like that part lol

avitech 11-19-2009 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 286392)
Yup....You can drive it til it runs out of gas without the key once it's running.....

Wow, me thinks this is a bad design. I should write Nissan USA and tell them that they need to factor this into their design. Driving without a key is like using a computer terminal at some random firm without having the proper authority, access, or permission to use it.

I suppose it wasn't considered in the design.

What if someone were driving their Nissan Z and they stopped at a 7-11 to throw away some trash in their trash can but the driver mistakenly threw away their car key as well and then they proceeded to continue driving without it. I hear these coded keys cost anywhere from $300 to $1,000 USD.
:icon14:

370zproject 11-19-2009 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by avitech (Post 287035)
Wow, me thinks this is a bad design. I should write Nissan USA and tell them that they need to factor this into their design. Driving without a key is like using a computer terminal at some random firm without having the proper authority, access, or permission to use it.

I suppose it wasn't considered in the design.

What if someone were driving their Nissan Z and they stopped at a 7-11 to throw away some trash in their trash can but the driver mistakenly threw away their car key as well and then they proceeded to continue driving without it. I hear these coded keys cost anywhere from $300 to $1,000 USD.
:icon14:

or if u started ur car and let it warm up went back insde and left ur key in the house then went back to ur car without the key and drove far away and turned ur car off... uh oh... >.>

Pheonix 11-19-2009 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Bradley (Post 285997)
Is it really cold in Memphis ??

It's not that cold here in Memphis yet, but come January we'll start getting around 20 degrees...it will very, very rarely go lower than that.

Modshack 11-19-2009 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 287051)
or if u started ur car and let it warm up went back insde and left ur key in the house then went back to ur car without the key and drove far away and turned ur car off... uh oh... >.>

LOL...There were stories every week on the Corvette forum about guys doing this. Their system works the same way. Tends to PO the wives when they have to drive 50+ miles to rescue the Hubby who left the FOB on the workbench...You usually only do this once....:tup:

Modshack 11-19-2009 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avitech (Post 287035)
I hear these coded keys cost anywhere from $300 to $1,000 USD.
:icon14:

Once again..:shakes head:..you heard wrong.

But even at $75 (Corvette) or $125 (Mazda) or $275 (Nissan) that's the price you pay for stupidity..

370Zsteve 11-19-2009 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molamann (Post 286067)
Haha, great find. +1

+1 x2! :tup:

zilent_jay 11-19-2009 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xjrx (Post 285996)
its generally not recommended to let a cold motor idle in those temperatures...you should only give it about 30 sec or so to get the oil moving throughout and then proceeed with a light foot. this will decrease the amount of time the engine is operating at colder temperatures

+100

I hate the fact I even have to start my car when it's cold outside. It sounds so pissed off when starting from an ice cold sleep. While the engine was designed with those parameters in mind, it's still not very nice. Definitely not letting it sit there to warm up. I'm not that big of a puss... :p

mirror 11-19-2009 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor (Post 286014)
My guess is that the button on the handle doesn't work while the car is running.

The button on the handle works on my Altima while the engine is running so I'd imagine that it's similar for other recent Nissan/Infiniti cars.

Quote:

Originally Posted by avitech (Post 287035)
What if someone were driving their Nissan Z and they stopped at a 7-11 to throw away some trash in their trash can but the driver mistakenly threw away their car key as well and then they proceeded to continue driving without it.

The car will whine loudly (beeping, NO KEY LCD warning) if it loses contact with the key - it's hard to miss. I'd think it'd be a worse idea if the car shut itself off after losing communication with the keyfob for a while. My current car has shut itself off without warning in traffic at random. Not fun.

The solution here is to turn off your car when it's unattended. You wouldn't leave the keys in the ignition of a locked, non-Intellikey car, would you? All someone would have to do is smash the window and go.

Quote:

I hear these coded keys cost anywhere from $300 to $1,000 USD.
:icon14:
I was quoted ~$200 for a new fob, mechanical key and programming at a dealership. It costs a lot more if you've forgotten/lost the security code number/tag that comes with your spare set of keys and all of your other keys.

FricFrac 11-20-2009 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 285984)
And how exactly are you going to lock the car without the keyfob (that's inside) if you're outside?

push the little silver "lock/unlock" the door button on the door handle?


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