V6 Camaro vs 370z?

FairladyZ40th · 04-12-2016, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Colton370z

For sure. I am going to lose some cash from eating the depreciation on the Camaro so, I really have to win on this next car and keep it for 3 or 4 years for it to be worth it. I have a test drive set up with the Nissan dealership here on Saturday. It's a sport tech edition in white. I will go in with an open mind and try to forget the feel of a larger car with an aggressive look and enjoy the more elegant style of the Z for what it is. It is also a manual transmission so that will be fun. How good is the stock clutch/manual tranny on Z/s? Do you guys normally upgrade that? I think my biggest question is, how reliable is this car? Have you Z owners had any serious issues with your 370s? How many miles do you guys have on them? I imagine since this car is heavily modded by many people that it can really take a beating and is designed to last a long time. I 100% believe foreign makes are put together much better than american cars ever will be.

The clutch is really really good. As I previously mentioned a lot of members will do a clutch kit swap because of the CSC failure which you may experience between 15k miles and 30k miles give or take. In my belief that IS the biggest issue other than heating. Again, since most people are modding ANYWAY they ignore the heating issues because they install an oil cooler. Also to go with that because people HAVE to fix the CSC they kill 2 stones with 1 bird and just do a full clutch kit upgrade ALONG with the CSC upgrade. Might as well do it while the mechanic has the tranny pulled out. So NO it's not something you must upgrade because the OEM sucks it's just more economical

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However the OEM clutch on these cars is amazing. Very strong and durable and has a really nice grab/launch and they'll basically last over 100k if you take care of it of course.

Dirk McGurck · 04-12-2016, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium

We've all been there

[EDIT] Oh snaps, OP... where in KS are you? I'm in Wichita. Selling my car is in the back of my mind, but it's a project on its own. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the photo below. I removed the front lip. The side is messed up. Roads here... argh!!! Just looking for reasonable offers.

What lip is that?

DIGItonium · 04-12-2016, 05:27 PM

It depends on what you want to do. I bought mine new, and I didn't do any major cosmetic work for at least a year. If I were to build one from the ground up and change things cosmetically anyway, which I should've done, I'd get one used. Any of the kinks can be resolved. I'm still running an '09, and the transmission was replaced twice. One wasn't working right, and the new one is pretty awesome. I'm running synthetic fluids, too. Does it feel old at 68k miles? Maybe the stock seats and carpet :P

Trust your gut... drive a used one, and then jump in a new one. I'll PM you about this Saturday. You're in luck. I washed my car Sunday night haha.

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck

What lip is that?

INGS +1 carbon fiber lip kit. Too expensive to replace. I rather save up for the NISMO conversion, but car project is such a low priority.

SouthArk370Z · 04-13-2016, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Colton370z

Should I get a used 370z from a previous year or should I just get a new 2016 Z?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by Colton370z

A lot of kinks should be worked out in the 2016 models, right? Has anything changed in the 2016's that you guys know of?

The CSC is the only big kink that I am aware of. There haven't been (m)any major changes since introduction in 2009 MY.

edub370 · 04-13-2016, 08:32 AM

the z is much closer in terms of performance to the ss as opposed to the rs. having personally ran an ss from about 50-120 (closed road in mexico), it took him until ever bit of 115 to even put a fender on me. the z will lend itself a lot better to back road carving and "feeling" sportier.

RobV · 04-13-2016, 11:06 AM

Couple points to point out

GM is no longer a Domestic brand. It's owned by Opel now. GM is getting ready to mass produce their new Buick mid sized SUV in China for import to the USA. We run Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Z-71's for my work. I have 3 outside in my yard now. If you think any car isn't without failures like the couple little ones the Z may have then you haven't been around cars much. I ran a used car dealership for years. Anyway back to my point about GM. GM has an issue with their V8's that is a well known problem. GM is buying a lot of Jasper engines for replacements because the have a crank shaft seal failure that is like clockwork after 100-200k miles. Our oldest truck is a 2009 and every one of our trucks have a replacement engine & transmission in them. Right around 100k when you do the 2nd transmission service is when the Auto transmissions start slipping. We are talking all 8 of our trucks in my region & more in other regions for my company are the same way. Granted we work in the oil field so they get worked but really not that hard as we do communications. We put a lot of highway miles on them. MY 2011 is at 267K but it's on it's 2nd motor & tranny. Rebuilding the transmissions isn't a good option as it costs as much or so close to buying a new Jasper with a better warranty than GM gives & GM uses them for their replacements

04-13-2016, 08:32 AM	#20 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 20	the z is much closer in terms of performance to the ss as opposed to the rs. having personally ran an ss from about 50-120 (closed road in mexico), it took him until ever bit of 115 to even put a fender on me. the z will lend itself a lot better to back road carving and "feeling" sportier. Colton370z likes this. __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

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RobV Base Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Pittsburgh area Posts: 64 Drives: 2014 370z TS Nav/M6 Rep Power: 10	Couple points to point out GM is no longer a Domestic brand. It's owned by Opel now. GM is getting ready to mass produce their new Buick mid sized SUV in China for import to the USA. We run Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Z-71's for my work. I have 3 outside in my yard now. If you think any car isn't without failures like the couple little ones the Z may have then you haven't been around cars much. I ran a used car dealership for years. Anyway back to my point about GM. GM has an issue with their V8's that is a well known problem. GM is buying a lot of Jasper engines for replacements because the have a crank shaft seal failure that is like clockwork after 100-200k miles. Our oldest truck is a 2009 and every one of our trucks have a replacement engine & transmission in them. Right around 100k when you do the 2nd transmission service is when the Auto transmissions start slipping. We are talking all 8 of our trucks in my region & more in other regions for my company are the same way. Granted we work in the oil field so they get worked but really not that hard as we do communications. We put a lot of highway miles on them. MY 2011 is at 267K but it's on it's 2nd motor & tranny. Rebuilding the transmissions isn't a good option as it costs as much or so close to buying a new Jasper with a better warranty than GM gives & GM uses them for their replacements