HP to displacement is a whole different subject. 150ish HP on a bike is a rocket. On a 2000lb+ car it's just pathetic no matter what size the engine is.

I just don't see the relevancy of comparing bikes to cars....:confused:

370z forum - Miata lacks power

Miata forum - 370z weights too much

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Fair point, I think I was trying to say people who disparage them are showing their ignorance. I've driven them, I enjoyed driving them, but I don't own one, and I miss my Z's torque when I'm driving one.

I pretty much will give any one the respect to love and build what ever car makes them happy, and would never really down any one for what their passion is. I may not agree it's the greatest thing on the road, but I do understand every one has their four wheel love affair. I love Z's and a lot of people would say I'm wasting money on them, I also have love affair with early ford falcons and many would say the same about them. It's not about the car to me, it's the passion you have for it that matters.

It's a simple.

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Z says "She lacks volume."

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Miata says "She is fat too much."

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P.S. I still love my Z. :)

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^ in that comparison I'll stick to the Z haha

I'll take the Miata at the bottom...

and tell my Z she's going on a diet :p

You mean a diet = downsizing ?? :confused:

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For Real ?!!!!? Z is for Zoftick.


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Do you mean zaftig? Neither of the subjects in the photos would be considered zaftig.

Actually, the S2000 is not the better car. Been there, done that, and seen it a lot of times at the auto-x. The Miata is still smaller and lighter, and still eats up the S2000 in the corners. Plus on the street, the S2000 is no faster than a Miata anywhere below 6000 rpm when VTEC kicks in. The seat, though a lot more supportive are also a lot more uncomfortable. And that instrument cluster is just butt ugly.

On larger, faster courses, the Miata lags behind the S2000.

As for the Miatas, they are fun cars to drive, both on the track and on the road. My first one was a 2002 NB that I had for 5 years and nearly completely stock. The second one I had was a 1991 NA with the smaller 1.6L. That was the better Miata, with a more rev-happy engine, was quicker and faster (I added a lot of lightness to it - ended up right around 1900 lbs), and it was just a much better connected car. Especially after I installed fully adjustable coil overs, light weight flywheel, full exhaust, and a super nasty aggressive alignment.

With a set of Dunlop Direzza II's on it and that alignment, I couldn't get it to break lose in the corners at all. At the auto-x, I was constantly blowing away the S2000's as well as the little Lotus Elise's. And on the streets, taking on ramps and off ramps were a blast, as well as one S-curve down the street from where I live. The speed limit around that S-curve is 25 mph, and after driving that road for the past 20+ years, I was able to get that Miata going through there at nearly 70 mph, staying in my lane! Scared the $h!t out of me every time I did that too!

Cars like that however can not be compared to the Z. They're just totally different animals. And for the record, I would much rather have the Z over the Miata now that I've had a Z for about 6 weeks. I'm getting more accustom to its abilities in the corners and am quite surprised considering its weight. I've been slowly testing its limits around those same S-curves, and I've managed a max of 52 mph so far without issue.

My brother was bragging because he was taking his Sport Z through there around 45 mph. He hasn't said much since I took him through there in my base at 50+ mph! LOL

What I like more about the Z over the Miata is its styling, its power and torque delivery, the exhaust note, and the fact that its handling in stock form is quite impressive. Then again, maybe widening its track width by 1.5" (with the addition of 20mm spacers at all four corners) has helped out in the handling department some.

Would I get another Miata again? Yeah, sure I would, but as a secondary car, and the Z as the very fun DD.

I raced in a Miata first gen for a few seasons , I still think bang for the buck its one of the best\fun cars to drive

As said before about the Z and why its good
Looks , exhaust note and more torque

I'd rather have a Toybaru than a Miata. Better looking car. Doesn't have the handling but would still be a blast to flog.

Neither car is in the same class as the Z.