Miata vs 370Z

Slartibartfas · 06-22-2016, 11:30 AM

"I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony..."

RumbleFish · 06-22-2016, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129

You implied our cars are fast In str8 and corners. Let's be real, I don't think our cars are considered that fast in the str8 line in the eyes of the v8 muscle car crowd.

You're talking about drag racing then because, I've gone at least 130+mph in a straight line in my Z.

For me, drag racing & NASCAR are

Road racing is where it's at

RumbleFish · 06-22-2016, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas

"I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony..."

somms · 06-22-2016, 04:49 PM

You can usually tell someone doesn't know much about cars if they don't have much respect for the Miata.

ayrton88 · 06-22-2016, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RumbleFish

You're talking about drag racing then because, I've gone at least 130+mph in a straight line in my Z.

For me, drag racing & NASCAR are

Road racing is where it's at

Yes... one is put it to the floor and turn left. The other is put it to the floor and go straight. I don't see the appeal of either.

Spstone · 06-22-2016, 10:42 PM

I don't know if I'd say "respect" is the right word, I get it, I understand why people love them, and they have their niche, but I don't know I'd say I respect them. I would also say I do know a little about cars.

Duc_Z09 · 06-22-2016, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by imjello

With headers and exhaust ( and tune ) the new Miata gains +50 hp and +50tq thanks to its factory 2.0L engine and 13.0 compression ratio. We are talking 193 hp and 190 tq to the wheels ( 139 whp is stock ). I think it's impressive.

Source: Good-Win Racing Longtube RACE Header OVER 40HP! - MX-5 Miata Forum

Sorry, I can't get onboard with a car that makes less power than a modern 1000cc motorcycle. I just can't do it.

Slartibartfas · 06-23-2016, 01:22 AM

The VQ37 horsepower to displacement ratio is not very good compared to a modern liter bike. 86 HP/liter compared to 120+/liter of any modern sport bike. Where's your disdain for that?

ayrton88 · 06-23-2016, 10:52 AM

Screw HP....what Nissan needs to do is take a page out of Colin Chapman's playbook and add lightness.

Btalont · 06-23-2016, 12:51 PM

As a Nismo and Miata owner (NA 1st gen), there is lots to like about both. I cheat a little in that my Miata is set up for the track (I instruct at DE events) and turbocharged, it has an equal fun factor compared to my Z. I have respect for both and enjoy them equally and have tracked them both.

You can get a nice NA or NB for a reasonable price and have a fun convertible.

Duc_Z09 · 06-23-2016, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas

The VQ37 horsepower to displacement ratio is not very good compared to a modern liter bike. 86 HP/liter compared to 120+/liter of any modern sport bike. Where's your disdain for that?

HP to displacement is a whole different subject. 150ish HP on a bike is a rocket. On a 2000lb+ car it's just pathetic no matter what size the engine is.

nis350 · 06-23-2016, 05:46 PM

I just don't see the relevancy of comparing bikes to cars....

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

HP to displacement is a whole different subject. 150ish HP on a bike is a rocket. On a 2000lb+ car it's just pathetic no matter what size the engine is.

cv129 · 06-23-2016, 06:05 PM

370z forum - Miata lacks power

Miata forum - 370z weights too much

somms · 06-23-2016, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Spstone

I don't know if I'd say "respect" is the right word, I get it, I understand why people love them, and they have their niche, but I don't know I'd say I respect them. I would also say I do know a little about cars.

Fair point, I think I was trying to say people who disparage them are showing their ignorance. I've driven them, I enjoyed driving them, but I don't own one, and I miss my Z's torque when I'm driving one.

Spstone · 06-23-2016, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by somms

Fair point, I think I was trying to say people who disparage them are showing their ignorance. I've driven them, I enjoyed driving them, but I don't own one, and I miss my Z's torque when I'm driving one.

I pretty much will give any one the respect to love and build what ever car makes them happy, and would never really down any one for what their passion is. I may not agree it's the greatest thing on the road, but I do understand every one has their four wheel love affair. I love Z's and a lot of people would say I'm wasting money on them, I also have love affair with early ford falcons and many would say the same about them. It's not about the car to me, it's the passion you have for it that matters.

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Slartibartfas Track Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Houston Posts: 551 Drives: 2011 G37S sedan Rep Power: 10	"I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony..." __________________ 2011 Journey Sport sedan 7AT \| SPL front, SPC rear camber arms \| ARK Grip cat-back \|

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somms Base Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Boston Posts: 131 Drives: 2011 370z SP MT Rep Power: 12	You can usually tell someone doesn't know much about cars if they don't have much respect for the Miata. zmanelite and ChopsZ like this. __________________ Fast Intentions 18 inch resonated catback, Fast Intentions resonated HFCs, Stillen Gen 3 CAI, EcuTEK tune, 311whp

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Spstone Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Wilmington, nc Posts: 354 Drives: 14 370Z Nismo 6MT PW Rep Power: 10	I don't know if I'd say "respect" is the right word, I get it, I understand why people love them, and they have their niche, but I don't know I'd say I respect them. I would also say I do know a little about cars. Duc_Z09 likes this.

06-23-2016, 01:22 AM	#158 (permalink)
Slartibartfas Track Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Houston Posts: 551 Drives: 2011 G37S sedan Rep Power: 10	The VQ37 horsepower to displacement ratio is not very good compared to a modern liter bike. 86 HP/liter compared to 120+/liter of any modern sport bike. Where's your disdain for that? __________________ 2011 Journey Sport sedan 7AT \| SPL front, SPC rear camber arms \| ARK Grip cat-back \|

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Btalont Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 68 Drives: 11 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 14	Own both As a Nismo and Miata owner (NA 1st gen), there is lots to like about both. I cheat a little in that my Miata is set up for the track (I instruct at DE events) and turbocharged, it has an equal fun factor compared to my Z. I have respect for both and enjoy them equally and have tracked them both. You can get a nice NA or NB for a reasonable price and have a fun convertible. ChopsZ likes this.

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ayrton88 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 397 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 14	Screw HP....what Nissan needs to do is take a page out of Colin Chapman's playbook and add lightness.

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cv129 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,245 Drives: 09 Nismo, 16 Nismo Rep Power: 163995	370z forum - Miata lacks power Miata forum - 370z weights too much felix0121 and kbc749 like this. __________________ Setrab \| RE-71 \| SPL \| JRZ \| Nismo \| ARK \| Whiteline \| RacingBrake \| CJM Oil Pan \| Ti shield

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