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Slartibartfas 06-22-2016 10:30 AM

"I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony..."

RumbleFish 06-22-2016 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3502468)
You implied our cars are fast In str8 and corners. Let's be real, I don't think our cars are considered that fast in the str8 line in the eyes of the v8 muscle car crowd.

You're talking about drag racing then because, I've gone at least 130+mph in a straight line in my Z.

For me, drag racing & NASCAR are:yawn:

Road racing is where it's at:tup:

RumbleFish 06-22-2016 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas (Post 3502730)
"I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony..."

:icon18:

somms 06-22-2016 03:49 PM

You can usually tell someone doesn't know much about cars if they don't have much respect for the Miata.

ayrton88 06-22-2016 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RumbleFish (Post 3502763)
You're talking about drag racing then because, I've gone at least 130+mph in a straight line in my Z.

For me, drag racing & NASCAR are:yawn:

Road racing is where it's at:tup:

Yes... one is put it to the floor and turn left. The other is put it to the floor and go straight. I don't see the appeal of either.

Spstone 06-22-2016 09:42 PM

I don't know if I'd say "respect" is the right word, I get it, I understand why people love them, and they have their niche, but I don't know I'd say I respect them. I would also say I do know a little about cars.

Duc_Z09 06-22-2016 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by imjello (Post 3502555)
With headers and exhaust ( and tune ) the new Miata gains +50 hp and +50tq thanks to its factory 2.0L engine and 13.0 compression ratio. We are talking 193 hp and 190 tq to the wheels ( 139 whp is stock ). I think it's impressive.

Source: Good-Win Racing Longtube RACE Header OVER 40HP! - MX-5 Miata Forum

Sorry, I can't get onboard with a car that makes less power than a modern 1000cc motorcycle. I just can't do it.:owned:

Slartibartfas 06-23-2016 12:22 AM

The VQ37 horsepower to displacement ratio is not very good compared to a modern liter bike. 86 HP/liter compared to 120+/liter of any modern sport bike. Where's your disdain for that?

ayrton88 06-23-2016 09:52 AM

Screw HP....what Nissan needs to do is take a page out of Colin Chapman's playbook and add lightness.

Btalont 06-23-2016 11:51 AM

Own both
 
As a Nismo and Miata owner (NA 1st gen), there is lots to like about both. I cheat a little in that my Miata is set up for the track (I instruct at DE events) and turbocharged, it has an equal fun factor compared to my Z. I have respect for both and enjoy them equally and have tracked them both.

You can get a nice NA or NB for a reasonable price and have a fun convertible.

Duc_Z09 06-23-2016 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas (Post 3503208)
The VQ37 horsepower to displacement ratio is not very good compared to a modern liter bike. 86 HP/liter compared to 120+/liter of any modern sport bike. Where's your disdain for that?

HP to displacement is a whole different subject. 150ish HP on a bike is a rocket. On a 2000lb+ car it's just pathetic no matter what size the engine is.

nis350 06-23-2016 04:46 PM

I just don't see the relevancy of comparing bikes to cars....:confused:

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 3503649)
HP to displacement is a whole different subject. 150ish HP on a bike is a rocket. On a 2000lb+ car it's just pathetic no matter what size the engine is.


cv129 06-23-2016 05:05 PM

370z forum - Miata lacks power

Miata forum - 370z weights too much

:rofl2:

somms 06-23-2016 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Spstone (Post 3503171)
I don't know if I'd say "respect" is the right word, I get it, I understand why people love them, and they have their niche, but I don't know I'd say I respect them. I would also say I do know a little about cars.



Fair point, I think I was trying to say people who disparage them are showing their ignorance. I've driven them, I enjoyed driving them, but I don't own one, and I miss my Z's torque when I'm driving one.

Spstone 06-23-2016 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by somms (Post 3503823)
Fair point, I think I was trying to say people who disparage them are showing their ignorance. I've driven them, I enjoyed driving them, but I don't own one, and I miss my Z's torque when I'm driving one.

I pretty much will give any one the respect to love and build what ever car makes them happy, and would never really down any one for what their passion is. I may not agree it's the greatest thing on the road, but I do understand every one has their four wheel love affair. I love Z's and a lot of people would say I'm wasting money on them, I also have love affair with early ford falcons and many would say the same about them. It's not about the car to me, it's the passion you have for it that matters.


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