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Will3212 11-16-2009 10:48 PM

A question about the 370z pull
 
I plan on getting either the 2010 model 370z or G37. I'm going to go with the 7AT and sports package. I know it had 330hp and 270 torque, but how's the rush of the pull from lets say 40mph-70mph or 30mph-60mph. Can you tell me specifically how it's like? does your head go all the way back and you sink hard into your seat? or does something else happen. Thanks in advance for any info. i'm talking about the 7AT by the way

import111 11-16-2009 10:54 PM

It does not feel as fast as it is. The power delivery is smooth so you don't feel a hard pull. I had an 05 STi before this car so I was use to the feel of the turbo kicking in with tons of torque...which might explain the way I fell.

Matt 11-16-2009 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Will3212 (Post 283458)
I plan on getting either the 2010 model 370z or G37. I'm going to go with the 7AT and sports package. I know it had 330hp and 270 torque, but how's the rush of the pull from lets say 40mph-70mph or 30mph-60mph. Can you tell me specifically how it's like? does your head go all the way back and you sink hard into your seat? or does something else happen. Thanks in advance for any info. i'm talking about the 7AT by the way

I've been in both the 7AT and 6MT, and the pull is nearly identical, assuming you're in sports mode on the AT.

30-60 in 2nd/3rd gear is great. 4500-5500 RPM range in all gears really has some great pull.

40-70 is a gray area. If you do it in 4th, you're fine...however you're not usually "cruising" at 55-60 in 4th gear ready to go up to 80. If you're in 6th at 55 and go to 70, it's gonna take 10 seconds. If you're in 4th at 40 and go up to 70, it's gonna take only 3 seconds.

My GF, who often rides with me, says her head flies back whenever I accelerate, especially at the 30-60 range in which you inquired about. I feel the pull as well, but doesn't quite feel as substantial.

Remember, one of the "bad" things about the 370z compared to previous Z's and other sports cars, is that because of the build, it really "hides" some of the power from the driver. But trust me, the performance is there and very real.

Will3212 11-16-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 283466)
I've been in both the 7AT and 6MT, and the pull is nearly identical, assuming you're in sports mode on the AT.

30-60 in 2nd/3rd gear is great. 4500-5500 RPM range in all gears really has some great pull.

40-70 is a gray area. If you do it in 4th, you're fine...however you're not usually "cruising" at 55-60 in 4th gear ready to go up to 80. If you're in 6th at 55 and go to 70, it's gonna take 10 seconds. If you're in 4th at 40 and go up to 70, it's gonna take only 3 seconds.

My GF, who often rides with me, says her head flies back whenever I accelerate, especially at the 30-60 range in which you inquired about. I feel the pull as well, but doesn't quite feel as substantial.

Remember, one of the "bad" things about the 370z compared to previous Z's and other sports cars, is that because of the build, it really "hides" some of the power from the driver. But trust me, the performance is there and very real.

so i guess the 2009 G37 7AT would have less of a pull than that of the Z right being that it's 300-400 pounds more, or does that give more pull?

Matt 11-16-2009 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Will3212 (Post 283480)
so i guess the 2009 G37 7AT would have less of a pull than that of the Z right being that it's 300-400 pounds more, or does that give more pull?

The G37 has noticeably less pull from what I've read. I did a considerable amount of research between the 370z and the G37 and still wonder if I made the right decision.

Not to say I'm unhappy with my Z, I f'ing love the car.

Do a test drive with the 7AT if you get the chance. In sports mode, it certainly doesn't feel like you're driving an auto. A good quote from someone on these forums was "This isn't your father's automatic transmission."

CBRich 11-17-2009 05:55 AM

The torque has actually pushed me through the seat. Cost a lot to repair it.

SOLISIMO 11-17-2009 05:58 AM

Before you go spending thousands on upgrade mods and do the mistake I made. Get gears, and an upgraded valve body from GTM and you will be untouchable. The car will accelerate like a beast and shift like a GTR

spearfish25 11-17-2009 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 283466)
I've been in both the 7AT and 6MT, and the pull is nearly identical, assuming you're in sports mode on the AT.

30-60 in 2nd/3rd gear is great. 4500-5500 RPM range in all gears really has some great pull.

40-70 is a gray area. If you do it in 4th, you're fine...however you're not usually "cruising" at 55-60 in 4th gear ready to go up to 80. If you're in 6th at 55 and go to 70, it's gonna take 10 seconds. If you're in 4th at 40 and go up to 70, it's gonna take only 3 seconds.

My GF, who often rides with me, says her head flies back whenever I accelerate, especially at the 30-60 range in which you inquired about. I feel the pull as well, but doesn't quite feel as substantial.

Remember, one of the "bad" things about the 370z compared to previous Z's and other sports cars, is that because of the build, it really "hides" some of the power from the driver. But trust me, the performance is there and very real.

Now accelerate from 40-70mph in 3rd and tell me what you think. Yes, intoxicating.

m4a1mustang 11-17-2009 06:34 AM

The car has pull but power delivery is smooth and linear, so you're not going to get "thrown" into the back of your seat. I owned a slower car on paper that was a lot more violent in acceleration feel... hell, my girlfriend's CLK500 "feels" more powerful in acceleration but if we actually ran the cars side by side I'd pull... that's what 340 lb-ft or so will do.

Best thing to do is go drive one. If your Civic is stock or anywhere near stock, you are probably going to feel "violent" acceleration until you get used to the 370.

G37Sam 11-17-2009 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 283466)
My GF, who often rides with me, says her head flies back whenever I accelerate

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 280131)
She likes to hold the knob while I shift

Maybe she's not holding tight enough? hahaha just messing

To OP: That's the thing, the VQ37VHR has this VVEL technology whose job is to flatten out the torque curve, unlike boosted car where you get thrown to the back seat when the boost kicks in, power comes very linear at WOT in the VQ37

You do get a the kick when you're say in first at 4k and then floor it.. The G37 gives a little less kick due to it's sluggish weight

MindFusion FX 11-17-2009 09:06 AM

i was originally gonna get a g37s..which in my opinion would have more pull then a 7AT, and even with the stick the pull wasn't that great. I was a bit disappointed with the power coming from that car so i did more research and that why im looking for a 370 now, and after driving the 370, the pull is sooo much better in it than the g37. they made the 37 to be too smooth and more luxary feeling then the Z. in my opinion it comes down to..do you want smoothness and comfort...or more speed and performance?

G37Sam 11-17-2009 11:10 AM

Yes the Z is more performance oriented, it's ECU is tuned in a more aggressive manner (response wise) unlike the G37 which is tuned for my grandma and yours to drive. The G is also around 400-500 lbs heavier I believe.

MindFusion FX 11-17-2009 11:23 AM

^ yea that, but the g37 drives nice...it was built for the general public to drive. for people that might want that extra power here and there..but its not for the guys that like to drive hard.

do a search on 0-60 times and 1/4 times and you'll see the difference is speed

G37Sam 11-17-2009 01:00 PM

yeah the Z pulls sub 5s 0-60 unlike the G37, but come on the G37 does drive hard when you want her to ;)

kenchan 11-17-2009 01:26 PM

after driving my Z, my G feels considerably slower accelerating from certain mph. mainly the 50hp difference and gearing.

elmz 11-17-2009 02:45 PM

I think it all depends on the cars you've owned in the past. Your judgement is going to be based on personal experience as well as ours, so opinions will vary. My last car was an 05 350Z and I can tell you the 370Z kicks harder when the power comes on. The 350 was very linear in it's power delivery, and it delivered it early on(peak torque 3800). It was not that exciting and it definitely didn't feel that fast. But going fast and feeling fast are not always the same thing. The 370 doesn't really pickup until after 3-3.5k in my opinion, but when the power comes on it kicks WAY harder than my 350. And it has the same linear delivery, except this time it actually "feels" fast.

vash_241987 11-17-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by elmz (Post 284417)
I think it all depends on the cars you've owned in the past. Your judgement is going to be based on personal experience as well as ours, so opinions will vary. My last car was an 05 350Z and I can tell you the 370Z kicks harder when the power comes on. The 350 was very linear in it's power delivery, and it delivered it early on(peak torque 3800). It was not that exciting and it definitely didn't feel that fast. But going fast and feeling fast are not always the same thing. The 370 doesn't really pickup until after 3-3.5k in my opinion, but when the power comes on it kicks WAY harder than my 350. And it has the same linear delivery, except this time it actually "feels" fast.

+1 I drive a '99 corolla, and whenever i got to drive a 09 C300 and CL600 (v12 bi-turbo FTW) for work, acceleration is (duh) obvious. I still can't get over the fact that when passing someone in the CL600 at 70mph I look down and I'm going 110mph, the car interior is just sooo comfy.

ChrisSlicks 11-17-2009 03:49 PM

One of my favorite tricks that I know will scare the crap out of most passengers is to cruise along at 40mph in 4th, and then all of a sudden down shift to 2nd and floor it. Just make sure to turn VDC off as this will most certainly chirp the tires.

MindFusion FX 11-17-2009 03:51 PM

:iagree:

elmz 11-17-2009 06:54 PM

I hope S mode is on when you do that :eek:

Red370 11-17-2009 07:12 PM

here's an idea, go to the dealership and test drive one!!!:ugh2:

ChrisSlicks 11-17-2009 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by elmz (Post 284707)
I hope S mode is on when you do that :eek:

Nah, S mode is irrelevant for that kind of shift because you are stepping on the gas and the clutch at the same time, with the goal of hitting the new gear at the approximate RPM of where it should be but under full throttle acceleration. S-mode would help if you did it more progressively, i.e. down shift, then accelerate, but the goal is to have it as one fluid motion.

It's just for entertainment purposes, I don't drive like that everyday.

MindFusion FX 11-17-2009 09:11 PM

I drive like that everyday on my way to and home from work

ChrisSlicks 11-17-2009 09:36 PM

Ok, I drive like that every other day :tup:

frost 11-17-2009 09:37 PM

Not a lot of pull. Agree with the previous comments that it's faster than it feels.

ChrisSlicks 11-17-2009 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 284986)
Not a lot of pull. Agree with the previous comments that it's faster than it feels.

I think people say this because there isn't a lot of low end torque, so there is no snap when you step on it. The power builds as the RPM's come up but it is a gradual surge unless you down shift first.

G37Sam 11-18-2009 12:36 AM

Look at the torque curves of:

Modded Evo:

http://maseengineering.com/images/uploads/evo_dyno.JPG



G37:

http://www.dragtimes.com/images_dyno...i-G37-Dyno.jpg

Should explain the kick back phenomena


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