To sell or not to sell

cab83_750 · 11-14-2009, 06:37 PM

Some of you may know that my beloved Z burns oil. Well the engine finally came and I am waiting for Monday to make an appt with the dealer.

So here is the deal:

With 8000 miles on the chassis and zero or so miles on the engine, should I sell?

Any pluses or minuses on having a new engine?

I love the Z but I am still craving for a 993 Porsche. I do have an extra 911 project that I can rebuild; thus I have no problem keeping the Z.

Thanks guys!

P.s.

Just somewhat disappointed about a brand new car burning oil.

Matt · 11-14-2009, 06:46 PM

You can look at this 2 different ways, in my opinion:

- Now's a perfect time to clean your hands of the Z. It's had issues, and you're going to remember them forever, whether or not the new engine has similar issues. You're going to lose some money on the sale, and it sounds like you have eyes for another car anyways.

- The only issue this car has (your car, specifically) is about to get fixed. It's going to transform back into the near perfect car you envisioned when you drove it off the lot. Give it some time. See if the problem indeed is fixed and forget about the problems it had. Enjoy the Z the way you should have been enjoying it. You lose too much money on the resale to think about selling it already.

Sorry, can't really give you any more advice other than one of the above paragraphs probably make more sense to you...choose that one!

Mike · 11-14-2009, 06:46 PM

Just be happy with the new engine and enjoy it. I had both the engine and transmission replaced on my 03 350z and never took a hit because of it.

cab83_750 · 11-14-2009, 07:31 PM

I am enjoying every minute of it. The power, the amenities, the a/c, stereo, you name it. I am somewhat far from selling, even though with 3 decades of 'manual transmission experience' behind me I still could not get this car to shift as smooth as any other cars I have owned.

I am just looking at the sale from a practically standpoint. The car is black, non-sports (no synchro-rev), but with the spoiler (front and back) and I had the clear-bra professionally installed. If I do pull the trigger (again, even though I am far away from selling), how much do you guys think it is worth knowing it has 8K on the chassis and almost-zero miles on the engine?

The car has always been garaged, you can still smell the brand-new-car-smell, no dings, scratches, whatsoever.....

StLRedrider · 11-14-2009, 10:19 PM

don't do it, keep the Z

Zsteve · 11-14-2009, 10:24 PM

I will say that alot of new cars today burn oil. My MKII Audi TT 2.0T would burn some oil and when I asked about it they said that engine could burn a quart every 2 to 3 K miles. I guess its a thing we have to put up with with engines that go fast and get really hot.

kenchan · 11-14-2009, 10:32 PM

since you're getting the new engine under warranty why not see how the new engine does before selling it? you can always sell the car later.

alan93rsa · 11-14-2009, 10:53 PM

The new engine will not bring you any more in a sale. Most would be hesitant even though there should be no issue. Just human nature.

speedoflife · 11-15-2009, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve

I will say that alot of new cars today burn oil. My MKII Audi TT 2.0T would burn some oil and when I asked about it they said that engine could burn a quart every 2 to 3 K miles. I guess its a thing we have to put up with with engines that go fast and get really hot.

The OP was burning around 2 qts. per 1,000 miles... ouch.

ChrisSlicks · 11-15-2009, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan93rsa

The new engine will not bring you any more in a sale. Most would be hesitant even though there should be no issue. Just human nature.

Most people see "new engine" and read that to mean lemon.

cab83_750 · 11-15-2009, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

Most people see "new engine" and read that to mean lemon.

hmmmm! I guess I am different as I see it as half-full. Free 8000 miles.

I did make a note that you said "....most people"

davidyan · 11-19-2009, 12:21 AM

If I were a buyer, my primary concern is that the engine might not have been installed correctly- How many 370Z engines do you think the Nissan dealer has had to replace? This is probably their first. Its never as good as when assembled at the factory.

kannibul · 11-19-2009, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidyan

If I were a buyer, my primary concern is that the engine might not have been installed correctly- How many 370Z engines do you think the Nissan dealer has had to replace? This is probably their first. Its never as good as when assembled at the factory.

That said, they come in a crate. I mean it's not like they're taking the engine apart and are rebuilding it.

I'd keep the car. You'd lose your butt on trading/selling it. If you disclose that it has a new engine, the buyer would think all kinds of things...even if you're 100% honest, they might think you blew the engine racing it...and wonder what else is going to fail.

If you don't disclose, well, that's just bad mojo.

370Zsteve · 11-19-2009, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul

That said, they come in a crate. I mean it's not like they're taking the engine apart and are rebuilding it.

I'd keep the car. You'd lose your butt on trading/selling it. If you disclose that it has a new engine, the buyer would think all kinds of things...even if you're 100% honest, they might think you blew the engine racing it...and wonder what else is going to fail.

If you don't disclose, well, that's just bad mojo.

And besides, the engine number will not match the original chassis number, so there is no way to hide it anyway.

Brandon26pdx · 11-19-2009, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidyan

If I were a buyer, my primary concern is that the engine might not have been installed correctly- How many 370Z engines do you think the Nissan dealer has had to replace? This is probably their first. Its never as good as when assembled at the factory.

Yep

Unless there was documentation proving it was a factory built longblock (which might be the case) installed as a built assembly, I would be leery. These new engines aren't exactly carbuerated Chevy 350's that a good machine shop can cobble together.

11-14-2009, 06:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
cab83_750 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 887 Drives: 09 NISSAN 370Z Rep Power: 417	To sell or not to sell Some of you may know that my beloved Z burns oil. Well the engine finally came and I am waiting for Monday to make an appt with the dealer. So here is the deal: With 8000 miles on the chassis and zero or so miles on the engine, should I sell? Any pluses or minuses on having a new engine? I love the Z but I am still craving for a 993 Porsche. I do have an extra 911 project that I can rebuild; thus I have no problem keeping the Z. Thanks guys! P.s. Just somewhat disappointed about a brand new car burning oil.

11-14-2009, 06:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
Matt A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Augusta, GA Age: 41 Posts: 1,680 Drives: 2010 Avalanche LT Rep Power: 19	You can look at this 2 different ways, in my opinion: - Now's a perfect time to clean your hands of the Z. It's had issues, and you're going to remember them forever, whether or not the new engine has similar issues. You're going to lose some money on the sale, and it sounds like you have eyes for another car anyways. - The only issue this car has (your car, specifically) is about to get fixed. It's going to transform back into the near perfect car you envisioned when you drove it off the lot. Give it some time. See if the problem indeed is fixed and forget about the problems it had. Enjoy the Z the way you should have been enjoying it. You lose too much money on the resale to think about selling it already. Sorry, can't really give you any more advice other than one of the above paragraphs probably make more sense to you...choose that one! __________________ "Any man who can drive a 370z while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the Z the attention it deserves." Albert Einstein....modified.

11-14-2009, 06:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	Just be happy with the new engine and enjoy it. I had both the engine and transmission replaced on my 03 350z and never took a hit because of it. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

11-14-2009, 07:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
cab83_750 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 887 Drives: 09 NISSAN 370Z Rep Power: 417	I am enjoying every minute of it. The power, the amenities, the a/c, stereo, you name it. I am somewhat far from selling, even though with 3 decades of 'manual transmission experience' behind me I still could not get this car to shift as smooth as any other cars I have owned. I am just looking at the sale from a practically standpoint. The car is black, non-sports (no synchro-rev), but with the spoiler (front and back) and I had the clear-bra professionally installed. If I do pull the trigger (again, even though I am far away from selling), how much do you guys think it is worth knowing it has 8K on the chassis and almost-zero miles on the engine? The car has always been garaged, you can still smell the brand-new-car-smell, no dings, scratches, whatsoever..... Last edited by cab83_750; 11-14-2009 at 07:50 PM.

11-14-2009, 10:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
StLRedrider A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: St.louis,Mo Posts: 17,755 Drives: O9Sprt/Touring,p-51 Rep Power: 60	don't do it, keep the Z __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today J.Dean

11-14-2009, 10:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	I will say that alot of new cars today burn oil. My MKII Audi TT 2.0T would burn some oil and when I asked about it they said that engine could burn a quart every 2 to 3 K miles. I guess its a thing we have to put up with with engines that go fast and get really hot. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

11-14-2009, 10:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	since you're getting the new engine under warranty why not see how the new engine does before selling it? you can always sell the car later.

11-14-2009, 10:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
alan93rsa Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 412 Drives: 16 Cayman GT4 Red Rep Power: 220	The new engine will not bring you any more in a sale. Most would be hesitant even though there should be no issue. Just human nature. __________________ 16 Cayman GT4, Carmine Red, Buckets, PCCB etc.

11-19-2009, 12:21 AM	#12 (permalink)
davidyan Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: CA Posts: 244 Drives: PG 370Z Sport 6MT Rep Power: 16	If I were a buyer, my primary concern is that the engine might not have been installed correctly- How many 370Z engines do you think the Nissan dealer has had to replace? This is probably their first. Its never as good as when assembled at the factory.

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