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AK370Z 11-11-2009 01:34 AM

370z VS E46 M3 :)
 
http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...racetrack.html

YouTube - E46 M3 vs 370z - Snetterton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGZAc2twa3U

Spec Jay 11-11-2009 01:59 AM

the 370 driver held his ground VERY well considering that hes still getting used to the car. hope that wasnt a oil temp prob he pulled over for

Trips 11-11-2009 03:01 AM

Limp Mode is a Possibility at the end, and it did very well...until it pulled over

Pharmacist 11-11-2009 07:11 AM

Isn't the 370 just as fast as the e46 m3?

AS370Z 11-11-2009 07:54 AM

My previous car was an 04 M3 with an intake/exhaust and to be honest I the Z feels quicker stock. :tup:

GingaBreadMan 11-11-2009 08:12 AM

I know a few guys with the current gen M3. I will have a comparo soon.

370Zsteve 11-11-2009 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GingaBreadMan (Post 275797)
I know a few guys with the current gen M3. I will have a comparo soon.

Is it me or did the M3 driver have no clue about hitting the apex and the Z driver used his brakes in the oddest places? :icon14:

And what about the guys driving the Lotus'...............wtf? Get a Pinto! :icon17:

Pharmacist 11-11-2009 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GingaBreadMan (Post 275797)
I know a few guys with the current gen M3. I will have a comparo soon.

sorry but the z wont stand a chance. you'll be blown away by the e92 m3. it's so much faster and more superior to the e46. a friend of mine has one. 414 hp really make it go! the e92 is in the league of the corvette, 911 carrera, viper, vanquish, etc...

GingaBreadMan 11-11-2009 09:26 AM

The E46 is garbage. My friend has one and it is very unimpressive. It only has power between 6K rpm and redline. Took him for a ride in the Z and he really liked the torque and power. He said the Z would wipe the floor with the M. He's looking to trade up to a E63 Mercedes. The E92 has us by 80hp but I'm still curious of it's capabilities.

NYBladeZ 11-11-2009 09:31 AM

the e92 is in leagues with the viper, vanquish, and vette? Yeah I don't think so, I've had the opportunity to drive an e92 with bmw's new paddle shift a few times. It is fast but "soft" compared to M's of old. It is much heavier than previous years as well. Undoubtly a great car, but does not belong in the same class of cars mentioned above. Furthermore I had the opportunity to run side by side with one in my stock Z from high 2nd through 4th gear...not as impressive as I expected.

ianthegreat 11-11-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GingaBreadMan (Post 275797)
I know a few guys with the current gen M3. I will have a comparo soon.

If it's one with a DCT you in for trouble.

marcussoori 11-11-2009 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AS370Z (Post 275793)
My previous car was an 04 M3 with an intake/exhaust and to be honest I the Z feels quicker stock. :tup:

Same experience here!!

370ZBLACK09 11-11-2009 11:20 AM

around Top Gear's Track the e92 M3 beats the 370Z by a little over 2 seconds (2.2)

NYBladeZ 11-11-2009 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 370ZBLACK09 (Post 275966)
around Top Gear's Track the e92 M3 beats the 370Z by a little over 2 seconds (2.2)

of course that is with a seasoned driver...not everyone drives like the Stig

Pharmacist 11-11-2009 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 275844)
the e92 is in leagues with the viper, vanquish, and vette? Yeah I don't think so, I've had the opportunity to drive an e92 with bmw's new paddle shift a few times. It is fast but "soft" compared to M's of old. It is much heavier than previous years as well. Undoubtly a great car, but does not belong in the same class of cars mentioned above. Furthermore I had the opportunity to run side by side with one in my stock Z from high 2nd through 4th gear...not as impressive as I expected.

Why not? 0-60 in 4.2 s, 1/4 mile in 12.6 s, 0.98g skidpad, 71.4 mph slalom. Would a viper, 911, or vanquish be able to best those numbers?

How do you know that M3 you ran with was at full throttle? They have 80 hp more, and are faster in both 0-60 and 1.4 mile by a margin.

370Z_Fan 11-11-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 276015)
Why not? 0-60 in 4.2 s, 1/4 mile in 12.6 s, 0.98g skidpad, 71.4 mph slalom. Would a viper, 911, or vanquish be able to best those numbers?

How do you know that M3 you ran with was at full throttle? They have 80 hp more, and are faster in both 0-60 and 1.4 mile by a margin.

Since you wanna mag race here you go:

SUPERCARS.NET - Comprehensive Specifications, Galleries & Forums since 1996

Clearly, the E92 M3 isn't in the same league as the Viper or 911.

Pharmacist 11-11-2009 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z_Fan (Post 276150)
Since you wanna mag race here you go:

SUPERCARS.NET - Comprehensive Specifications, Galleries & Forums since 1996

Clearly, the E92 M3 isn't in the same league as the Viper or 911.

your own list says the m3 is within a 3-4 sec of the 911 (which is nothing for a very long racetrack like nordschleife), and is actually faster than the srt 10 viper

xfrgtr 11-11-2009 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 275803)
sorry but the z wont stand a chance. you'll be blown away by the e92 m3. it's so much faster and more superior to the e46. a friend of mine has one. 414 hp really make it go! the e92 is in the league of the corvette, 911 carrera, viper, vanquish, etc...

:iagree:

370Z_Fan 11-11-2009 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 276182)
your own list says the m3 is within a 3-4 sec of the 911 (which is nothing for a very long racetrack like nordschleife), and is actually faster than the srt 10 viper

Since you're comparing a top of the line 3 series, why not compare it to top of the lines like the 911 GT2 or ACR Viper? Don't you want to compare apples to apples here??

Trips 11-11-2009 04:03 PM

Magazine racing, and e90 comparisons, are not what this threads about.
Keep it on Topic Guys!

Pharmacist 11-11-2009 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z_Fan (Post 276236)
Since you're comparing a top of the line 3 series, why not compare it to top of the lines like the 911 GT2 or ACR Viper? Don't you want to compare apples to apples here??

No, the gt2 and acr are expensive supercars tuned exclusively for race track. The e92 is a sports car, so it can be compared to sports cars in its performance and price range like the carrera, corvette, viper. bmw does not make supercars, so there is nothing to compare to cars like the acr and gt2.

chuckd05 11-11-2009 04:21 PM

e46 is still one of my favs

RCZ 11-11-2009 05:00 PM

Sorry, this thread is LOL so far.

Trips 11-11-2009 05:03 PM

It's beyond help, can we say soon to be Train Wreck!
Did you guys not see the name of the Thread?

GingaBreadMan 11-11-2009 11:35 PM

I guess everyone knows the E46 can't compete with the 370 so we're trying to find another victim.

CrownR426 11-11-2009 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 276295)
Sorry, this thread is LOL so far.

I feel ya! lmfao...
I think some people should just not say anything cause they sound like fools. :ugh2:

tbonesteak 11-12-2009 01:00 AM

To whoever that said e92 was built to hang with carreras, vipers, vettes, yadda yadda.....let me know what you're smoking - i'd like some too. If im on that, i'll probably think my Z is in the same league as the aforementioned list of cars too and therefore will enlarge my e-penis. M3 is a mass marketed overweight sports touring car. please compare apples to apples.

Pharmacist 11-12-2009 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tbonesteak (Post 276748)
To whoever that said e92 was built to hang with carreras, vipers, vettes, yadda yadda.....let me know what you're smoking - i'd like some too. If im on that, i'll probably think my Z is in the same league as the aforementioned list of cars too and therefore will enlarge my e-penis. M3 is a mass marketed overweight sports touring car. please compare apples to apples.

You don't need to smoke. You need to read. Go check the list of nurburgring laptimes posted by the other guy a few posts above. The m3 time is indeed around the same as the 911, viper, corvette, etc...

Trips 11-12-2009 09:39 AM

:drama:

tbonesteak 11-12-2009 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 276784)
You don't need to smoke. You need to read. Go check the list of nurburgring laptimes posted by the other guy a few posts above. The m3 time is indeed around the same as the 911, viper, corvette, etc...

ROFLCopter.......that list.....now really tell me what you're smoking. while that list has some accurate data, u have got to tell me that it's loaded with a BUNCH of bs too. how do you know the variables that were involved in ALL those 32489345 runs? drivers? weather? track condition? temp? etc etc....hence all the inaccurate times. fanboism is okay to an extent. but this is ridiculous. e9x m3 is def a nice car. i wish i had one instead of my Z for sure. but ive also driven it a LOT both on the street and track. i've also driven a 997 carrera s a lot. believe me my friend they don't compare.

XwChriswX 11-12-2009 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 276295)
Sorry, this thread is LOL so far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 276299)
It's beyond help, can we say soon to be Train Wreck!
Did you guys not see the name of the Thread?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 276855)
:drama:


Don't worry... It will get AKz'd soon. :tup:

xiven 11-12-2009 10:38 AM

I thought this thread was about the E46 M3? :icon14:

XwChriswX 11-12-2009 10:45 AM

Naaa.. They just put that in the title cause it has to have one, there's no reeeeaaaalll meaning :tup:

RCZ 11-12-2009 12:07 PM

looks to me like the Z overheated there at the end.

phelan 11-12-2009 12:16 PM

oil coolers...

they're grrrrreat!

lemansz20 11-12-2009 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 276784)
You don't need to smoke. You need to read. Go check the list of nurburgring laptimes posted by the other guy a few posts above. The m3 time is indeed around the same as the 911, viper, corvette, etc...

As some one mentioned I think your a little crazy. In the track world 3-4 secs are ALOT. That is a big gap to be honest if you were to say .05 secs, then that would be close.

Pheonix 11-12-2009 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 276982)
oil coolers...

they're grrrrreat!

:rofl2:

ianthegreat 11-12-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbonesteak (Post 276866)
ROFLCopter.......that list.....now really tell me what you're smoking. while that list has some accurate data, u have got to tell me that it's loaded with a BUNCH of bs too. how do you know the variables that were involved in ALL those 32489345 runs? drivers? weather? track condition? temp? etc etc....hence all the inaccurate times. fanboism is okay to an extent. but this is ridiculous. e9x m3 is def a nice car. i wish i had one instead of my Z for sure. but ive also driven it a LOT both on the street and track. i've also driven a 997 carrera s a lot. believe me my friend they don't compare.

We don't.. so I guess those variables are only untrue for the m3 ;)

We either go by the official times presented or by your "substantial" experience.

817-370z 11-12-2009 03:46 PM

get the 370z, i have driven both and the Z feels faster and sportier, now the new M3s are faster, but cost like $20k more than the Z.


to the poster who said, the new bmw will beat a new vette.llllllllooooooolllllll

the new vettes come stock w/ 436HP/ 424Tq
and the new M3s come stock w/ 414HP/ 425 Tq

how can a M3 beat a vette, when it has = torque and less HP???

especially when the bmw outweighs the vette.

shabarivas 11-12-2009 04:09 PM

the weights are close - there are a LOT of factors that come into play w/ cars that close lol... the "436" and "414" are PEAK power not the average of the power band... stop mag racing... its lame


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