370z VS E46 M3 :)

XwChriswX · 11-12-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Sorry, this thread is LOL so far.

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Originally Posted by Triple's

It's beyond help, can we say soon to be Train Wreck!
Did you guys not see the name of the Thread?

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Originally Posted by Triple's

Don't worry... It will get AKz'd soon.

xiven · 11-12-2009, 11:38 AM

I thought this thread was about the E46 M3?

XwChriswX · 11-12-2009, 11:45 AM

Naaa.. They just put that in the title cause it has to have one, there's no reeeeaaaalll meaning

RCZ · 11-12-2009, 01:07 PM

looks to me like the Z overheated there at the end.

phelan · 11-12-2009, 01:16 PM

oil coolers...

they're grrrrreat!

lemansz20 · 11-12-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

You don't need to smoke. You need to read. Go check the list of nurburgring laptimes posted by the other guy a few posts above. The m3 time is indeed around the same as the 911, viper, corvette, etc...

As some one mentioned I think your a little crazy. In the track world 3-4 secs are ALOT. That is a big gap to be honest if you were to say .05 secs, then that would be close.

Pheonix · 11-12-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan

oil coolers...

they're grrrrreat!

ianthegreat · 11-12-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tbonesteak

ROFLCopter.......that list.....now really tell me what you're smoking. while that list has some accurate data, u have got to tell me that it's loaded with a BUNCH of bs too. how do you know the variables that were involved in ALL those 32489345 runs? drivers? weather? track condition? temp? etc etc....hence all the inaccurate times. fanboism is okay to an extent. but this is ridiculous. e9x m3 is def a nice car. i wish i had one instead of my Z for sure. but ive also driven it a LOT both on the street and track. i've also driven a 997 carrera s a lot. believe me my friend they don't compare.

We don't.. so I guess those variables are only untrue for the m3

We either go by the official times presented or by your "substantial" experience.

817-370z · 11-12-2009, 04:46 PM

get the 370z, i have driven both and the Z feels faster and sportier, now the new M3s are faster, but cost like $20k more than the Z.

to the poster who said, the new bmw will beat a new vette.llllllllooooooolllllll

the new vettes come stock w/ 436HP/ 424Tq
and the new M3s come stock w/ 414HP/ 425 Tq

how can a M3 beat a vette, when it has = torque and less HP???

especially when the bmw outweighs the vette.

shabarivas · 11-12-2009, 05:09 PM

the weights are close - there are a LOT of factors that come into play w/ cars that close lol... the "436" and "414" are PEAK power not the average of the power band... stop mag racing... its lame

GingaBreadMan · 11-12-2009, 05:48 PM

That's interesting. I never looked at it that way. We always wanna know what the hp and tq numbers are for a given vehicle, whereas for our needs the average power would be more beneficial. I'm not very good at reading dyno charts, but I wonder how the 370 stacks up against other performance cars using this method. My apologies for being even more off topic.

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the weights are close - there are a LOT of factors that come into play w/ cars that close lol... the "436" and "414" are PEAK power not the average of the power band... stop mag racing... its lame

xfrgtr · 11-12-2009, 06:06 PM

Laguna Seca
BMW M3 (E92) 1:42.964
Porsche 997 Carrera (2008 facelift) 1:45.0

ianthegreat · 11-12-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 817-370z

get the 370z, i have driven both and the Z feels faster and sportier, now the new M3s are faster, but cost like $20k more than the Z.

to the poster who said, the new bmw will beat a new vette.llllllllooooooolllllll

the new vettes come stock w/ 436HP/ 424Tq
and the new M3s come stock w/ 414HP/ 425 Tq

how can a M3 beat a vette, when it has = torque and less HP???

especially when the bmw outweighs the vette.

You really should drive an m3 and experience it.

HP is most beneficial top end, torque is what really yanks you out of the turns.

ianthegreat · 11-12-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GingaBreadMan

That's interesting. I never looked at it that way. We always wanna know what the hp and tq numbers are for a given vehicle, whereas for our needs the average power would be more beneficial. I'm not very good at reading dyno charts, but I wonder how the 370 stacks up against other performance cars using this method. My apologies for being even more off topic.

Dont be, it's great conversation and we all learn from it. Now I haven't seen THAT many 370z dyno pulls, but it appears most of your power is above 5.5k.

Where as most turbo vehicles start hitting peak power around 5.5k - something the 335i deals with. The torque really shoots you out front, but after about 100mph it's anyones game - more often then not the larger NA engine. Myself and ArnVan on this forum run a lot and it really is awesome how much power the VQ puts out top end.

I know I'll probably be flamed for posting this.. but they recently released the new m3 gts. More of a track version than a DD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCzDOpVasHM

Sardis · 11-12-2009, 07:53 PM

I hate to contribute to this thread, but the weights on a C6 and M3 are close?? You have almost 500 pounds of difference. There is a reason why the vette has the quarter time it does

Also YouTube - Nissan GT-R by autocar.co.uk

Note the reviewer owns an M3. I point this out only to show you the braking system on these cars while fine on the street is a bit of a joke on the track.

I love the M3, but I pine for the days of the E36 at 2700 pounds.. Remember the Euro versions didn't have the detuned engines, those were impressive cars.

E46 is also beautiful, but with every generation you can see them becoming more luxurious and less track oriented, this true of all M cars evolving.

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Sardis Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 72 Drives: EX Z Owner Rep Power: 16	I hate to contribute to this thread, but the weights on a C6 and M3 are close?? You have almost 500 pounds of difference. There is a reason why the vette has the quarter time it does Also YouTube - Nissan GT-R by autocar.co.uk Note the reviewer owns an M3. I point this out only to show you the braking system on these cars while fine on the street is a bit of a joke on the track. I love the M3, but I pine for the days of the E36 at 2700 pounds.. Remember the Euro versions didn't have the detuned engines, those were impressive cars. E46 is also beautiful, but with every generation you can see them becoming more luxurious and less track oriented, this true of all M cars evolving. __________________ "Because in a split second, it's gone." - Ayrton Senna

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xiven A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta Age: 43 Posts: 4,128 Drives: Cookie Monster Rep Power: 294	I thought this thread was about the E46 M3?

11-12-2009, 01:07 PM	#34 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	looks to me like the Z overheated there at the end.

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817-370z Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ft. Worth, Tx Posts: 7 Drives: 05 350z Rep Power: 16	get the 370z, i have driven both and the Z feels faster and sportier, now the new M3s are faster, but cost like $20k more than the Z. to the poster who said, the new bmw will beat a new vette.llllllllooooooolllllll the new vettes come stock w/ 436HP/ 424Tq and the new M3s come stock w/ 414HP/ 425 Tq how can a M3 beat a vette, when it has = torque and less HP??? especially when the bmw outweighs the vette.

11-12-2009, 05:09 PM	#40 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	the weights are close - there are a LOT of factors that come into play w/ cars that close lol... the "436" and "414" are PEAK power not the average of the power band... stop mag racing... its lame

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