370Z loses to Mitsubishi and Subaru?

CBRich · 11-10-2009, 03:05 PM

Magazine racing is stupid. Even more so when the track is wet. Why don't we race them on one wheel in the snow too.

FuszNissan · 11-10-2009, 03:16 PM

So what are we discussing?

GingaBreadMan · 11-10-2009, 03:39 PM

My tricycle outran my friends big wheel

YamahaR6 · 11-10-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GingaBreadMan

My tricycle outran my friends big wheel

Nice

Zsteve · 11-10-2009, 03:54 PM

AWD is great thats why they did better. I would think if you are doing an artical for a magazine you could wait a day to test the cars on a dry day and get a more true representation unless thats what they wanted from the get go. AWD is why Audi was killing people in races back in the day when they first came up with Quattro (for them) and they were actually forced to do things that the other race drivers didnt have to do to compensate for the advantage. 6.1 is a joke that I would be never print for fear of losing rep for the magazine and those that read it.

YamahaR6 · 11-10-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

AWD is great thats why they did better. I would think if you are doing an artical for a magazine you could wait a day to test the cars on a dry day and get a more true representation unless thats what they wanted from the get go. AWD is why Audi was killing people in races back in the day when they first came up with Quattro (for them) and they were actually forced to do things that the other race drivers didnt have to do to compensate for the advantage. 6.1 is a joke that I would be never print for fear of losing rep for the magazine and those that read it.

FYI: BTCC (British touring car champion) is were the Audi A4 dominated the track with their 4WD. They had to put on extra weights for 4WD advantage. After Audi put on weights, they didn't do too well.

One_Quick_Z · 11-10-2009, 04:07 PM

Wet track had a lot to do with the results, The 370Z will beat them when its normal conditions stock for stock. Depending on the Drivers Skills

DAN

Modshack · 11-10-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan

So what are we discussing?

Beats me....

370Zsteve · 11-10-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dad

Those other cars are butt a** ugly!

BINGO! YOU WIN!

Endgame · 11-10-2009, 04:30 PM

Everywhere else, the Z is faster than the turbo 4's except this comparo. Not to counter you AK, but I have not seen a STI or Evo be faster than the Z in any other comparos...

Sorry, but D Sport test do not hold too much weight with me. I do like reading their articles however...

Matt · 11-10-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

BINGO! YOU WIN!

molamann · 11-10-2009, 07:04 PM

Well at least we met our bi-monthly quota for Z vs Evo/Sti discussion.

Inspector71 · 11-11-2009, 12:16 PM

Thanks for the response to this thread. Frankly, as many of you noted, it wouldn't matter to me if any of those cars were a little or much faster than the Z. They are still not a Z. The Z is a sportscar from the ground up with all the parts designed to work together not just for speed but for handling, poise, and so forth. The other cars look like sported up sedans. As for reliability, yeah, I wondered about those turbo-4's myself. Thanks for clearing up the wet track problem. At first I thought, well of course it is slower on a wet track but the other cars are running on the same wet track...except they are front/awd. Now it makes sense. In any event, I couldn't see the sense of paying $34 grand for a Mitsubishi or Subaru as opposed to $29 grand for a 370Z. Keep up the good work. I wish the magazine had done a better job of explaining how the tests were run and the meaning. If you have seen this issue, you know they don't.

NewlyIMPORTed · 11-11-2009, 12:20 PM

i have that issue it was a very wet track and the next car they tested got rained out

Pharmacist · 11-11-2009, 01:01 PM

My favourite is the 370z but Im also a great fan of the STi and the Evolution. They are much more than just an econobox sedan with a turbo slapped on. It's true that their image is somewhat tainted by the fast and furious boy racer type of people, but the fact remains that both the sti and evo have a very long and impressive heritage in rallying. They are legitimate performance cars based on legitimate race cars. They're not like your average honda civic with fart can, huge wing, flame paint, etc...

11-10-2009, 03:16 PM	#17 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	So what are we discussing? __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

11-10-2009, 03:39 PM	#18 (permalink)
GingaBreadMan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 313 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6spd Rep Power: 16	My tricycle outran my friends big wheel __________________ ClearBra/Debadging/Tinted Head & Taillights Coming Soon:180° Customs Headlights/ISS Forged Spyder 19" 265*305/Swift Springs/STS Rear Mount Turbo

11-10-2009, 03:54 PM	#20 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	AWD is great thats why they did better. I would think if you are doing an artical for a magazine you could wait a day to test the cars on a dry day and get a more true representation unless thats what they wanted from the get go. AWD is why Audi was killing people in races back in the day when they first came up with Quattro (for them) and they were actually forced to do things that the other race drivers didnt have to do to compensate for the advantage. 6.1 is a joke that I would be never print for fear of losing rep for the magazine and those that read it. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

11-10-2009, 04:07 PM	#22 (permalink)
One_Quick_Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Seneca Il Posts: 1,374 Drives: 10 Civic EX Sedan Rep Power: 219	Wet track had a lot to do with the results, The 370Z will beat them when its normal conditions stock for stock. Depending on the Drivers Skills DAN __________________ -My BRZ with exhaust will decimate all if we overnight parts from Japan- 10 Civic EX Sedan- Current Daily

11-11-2009, 12:16 PM	#28 (permalink)
Inspector71 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lee's Summit Missouri Posts: 337 Drives: 2015 Pearl White Z Rep Power: 16	Thanks for the great responses Thanks for the response to this thread. Frankly, as many of you noted, it wouldn't matter to me if any of those cars were a little or much faster than the Z. They are still not a Z. The Z is a sportscar from the ground up with all the parts designed to work together not just for speed but for handling, poise, and so forth. The other cars look like sported up sedans. As for reliability, yeah, I wondered about those turbo-4's myself. Thanks for clearing up the wet track problem. At first I thought, well of course it is slower on a wet track but the other cars are running on the same wet track...except they are front/awd. Now it makes sense. In any event, I couldn't see the sense of paying $34 grand for a Mitsubishi or Subaru as opposed to $29 grand for a 370Z. Keep up the good work. I wish the magazine had done a better job of explaining how the tests were run and the meaning. If you have seen this issue, you know they don't.

11-10-2009, 03:05 PM	#16 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	Magazine racing is stupid. Even more so when the track is wet. Why don't we race them on one wheel in the snow too.

11-10-2009, 04:30 PM	#25 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 224	Everywhere else, the Z is faster than the turbo 4's except this comparo. Not to counter you AK, but I have not seen a STI or Evo be faster than the Z in any other comparos... Sorry, but D Sport test do not hold too much weight with me. I do like reading their articles however...

11-10-2009, 07:04 PM	#27 (permalink)
molamann A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,666 Drives: 370Z with NAVVVVV Rep Power: 284	Well at least we met our bi-monthly quota for Z vs Evo/Sti discussion.

11-11-2009, 12:20 PM	#29 (permalink)
NewlyIMPORTed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 1,109 Drives: 11 STI Sedan Rep Power: 18	i have that issue it was a very wet track and the next car they tested got rained out

11-11-2009, 01:01 PM	#30 (permalink)
Pharmacist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 1,249 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6MT Rep Power: 18	My favourite is the 370z but Im also a great fan of the STi and the Evolution. They are much more than just an econobox sedan with a turbo slapped on. It's true that their image is somewhat tainted by the fast and furious boy racer type of people, but the fact remains that both the sti and evo have a very long and impressive heritage in rallying. They are legitimate performance cars based on legitimate race cars. They're not like your average honda civic with fart can, huge wing, flame paint, etc...

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