God... I hate that forum. Had to ask a few questions regarding my dads 2006 MDX. I was crucified because I didn't know where the secondary latch inside the trunk was to open the hatch.

But seriously. Civic Si's are junk. They are just long lasting pieces of junk.

Yeah, especially the TL section. They think the 07-08 TL-S and the SH-AWD in the later gens is god's gift to the automotive world. They especially love to hate on the VQ (their only argument is reliability), then they default to the interior. LOL. I love pushing buttons there.

I'd still buy an S4 in a heartbeat. They can keep the TT. The Z's interior does suck. But I'm not looking at or petting the damn dashboard when I am driving a freaking sport car though. The Civivs is mainly cheap palstic and faux leather also with cloth seats. I'm not penalizing it for having crappy interior quality. I'll penalize it for using a digital speedometer so recessed within the dash that direct sunlight beaming from the drivers side of the car makes reading your speed about as hard as a blind person ordering food from a touchscreen at mcdonalds when the voice function is off.

I never had an issue when driving a 2006 Civic LX Sedan for 5 years. Literally no complaints other than power and the seats could use a teeny bit more padding. But it's a perfectly reliable and perfectly usable sub-$20k car. I would own an Si tomorrow for a daily if I could.

I always hear the older models being better. The GF has a 2009 Civic EX. It's practical and quiet. No power, but big deal. It seems like the newer revisions and specifically the Si's are what are horrible.

I like the Z interior with factory nav. It's not plush with leather, but it looks decent in my opinion.

i saw a jetta GLI (?) this am...appeared lowered :confused: with oem looking nicer wheels. i like it better than the A4's.. aka euro-camry's

too bad vw's getting its face kicked in by the us government for cheating.

^^^^^ getting beat up for the lying might make them put out some killer deals to get the cars moving again.

Nissan lied to us when we bought my Wifes Rouge. They said 26/33 shes getting closer to 30/36. She also drives like old people fornicate but she was super stoked with it.

nissan has some really great cars out right now for the normal folk.

like even the altimas are supposed to be really efficient and powerful for wat they are.

not sure about the 4.D.S.C though... :ugh:

Odyssey?

With reckless abandon and lots of STDs?

For me an interesting car has to have a manual option, and not just a manual on the economy trim level. Otherwise it's the same sitting on a couch pushing buttons wrapped in a different shape.

yep, it replaced the S2000.

Poor EW. I'm sure he can trade his in for a Ridgeline.