trade my Z for a bmw 135i?

TPrelude-370z · 12-25-2015, 01:20 AM

Thanks. I wasn't even going to consider the carmax warranty as it can be suspect, but after hearing so many warnings, I would almost have to purchase it for peace of mind alone. Their warranties get mixed reviews, but the carmax I'm purchasing from gets nothing but great reviews. Buying any used car is a risk, especially if you don't even get to see the people that were driving it prior.

I don't trust any inspections dealers or carmax claim, or CPO, they are still used cars and unknown territory. So many purchased and sold at auction that nobody knows much about the car until they already bought it.

TPrelude-370z · 12-25-2015, 01:23 AM

If I'm that close to the threshold of expensive maintenance preventative, or failure, I am definitely leaning toward keeping the Z. Most of the responses say the same thing. Very tuner friendly and potentially quick, but unreliable enough that so many make mention of it. I know if I asked the question in reverse, nobody would even mention reliability regarding the Z.

sunkist350z · 12-25-2015, 01:40 PM

I am glad your keeping the z

90 ST · 12-25-2015, 02:14 PM

Since your going to keep it, I would spend a few bucks on gears for the diff, if you haven't already, and hold out for the next Z with the TT 3.0.

TPrelude-370z · 12-25-2015, 03:51 PM

It's so funny how all you guys are the voice of reason (even the 135 guys are), and I appreciate it. I'm a guy that usually goes against reason, but 90% of the time it has benefited me in life. I purchased the Z impulsively and that was one of the best decisions I have made. I purchased my ZX6R Ninja without ever even riding a bike or any motorized vehicle besides a car in my life. That was another great decision as I couldn't imagine not having a bike. Theo only bad impulse decision I made was joining the Army and serving 7 years (2 of which in Iraq). But even then, it has benefited me just as much as it has impaired me. I got married impulsively just before my second tour in Iraq (I figured I wouldn't make it back so what the heck, hahahaha). It was the best decision of my life and we only dated for 10 months or so. Had I not, I wouldn't be here right now. Sorry for the personal talk, I tend to rant.

I have been researching non stop over the past few days and it looks like the 2012 135 with the single turbo is relatively reliable as compared to the earlier n54 twin turbo models. I've been driving the hell out of my Z the last 2 days and having a blast, but it's like that girlfriend you have had for a long time, the passion starts to fade over time. I always think the car I buy will be, "the one," and I will never get rid of it. I grow attached to them, but I also enjoy a new platform to play with. I have never had a car with significant tq, it would be nice to see what it's like. I'm actually enjoying all the responses and feedback in general.

TPrelude-370z · 12-25-2015, 03:52 PM

What will the change in gears do for me and what would I be looking at cost wise? Pardon my lack of knowledge in this area.

sunkist350z · 12-25-2015, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90 ST

Since your going to keep it, I would spend a few bucks on gears for the diff, if you haven't already, and hold out for the next Z with the TT 3.0.

90 ST · 12-25-2015, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TPrelude-370z

What will the change in gears do for me and what would I be looking at cost wise? Pardon my lack of knowledge in this area.

Not sure of cost for the Z, there are a few threads on here about what you need part numbers and cost. But it will pull some top end out of the car, but it will accelerate quicker. Feel like more torque.
Some of the guys that have done it in the Z can tell you more about the seat of the pants difference is like for the Z. The cars I've done it in, one was like I added 100HP, gears in it were hwy gears (2:29)and crap, went to a 3:73, the truck I did, for sure a difference, but not as much, went from a 3:08 to a 3:73. The Z you can do a 4:08, can't remember what stock is.

Worth looking into if you want more pull out of the Z, it will make a bit of a difference for sure .

TPrelude-370z · 12-25-2015, 07:26 PM

interesting, thank you for the advice.

Nixin · 12-25-2015, 08:34 PM

There are a few guys on my street with BMW's, a 135 an M3, an M4, a regular 4 and a regular 6 and I can tell you that they all drool when they see my Z.

m4a1mustang · 12-25-2015, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixin

There are a few guys on my street with BMW's, a 135 an M3, an M4, a regular 4 and a regular 6 and I can tell you that they all drool when they see my Z.

I doubt anyone with an M4 would be drooling at a 30k Nissan... Lmao.

kenchan · 12-25-2015, 09:53 PM

i doubt any bmw leaser would drool over any other car... cause u know..

m4a1mustang · 12-25-2015, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

i doubt any bmw leaser would drool over any other car... cause u know..

We should let the kids continue living in their little dream world, I guess.

ssmoked · 12-25-2015, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TPrelude-370z

I've been driving the hell out of my Z the last 2 days and having a blast, but it's like that girlfriend you have had for a long time, the passion starts to fade over time. I always think the car I buy will be, "the one," and I will never get rid of it. I grow attached to them, but I also enjoy a new platform to play with.

Sooo... How does your logic translate when you married? Lmao just busting your balls

Btw, it's not the large engine component you should be worried about. It's the small electrical, sensors, hoses that goes bad frequently in German cars and are expensive as h€ll to fix

JC-Nismo · 12-26-2015, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I doubt anyone with an M4 would be drooling at a 30k Nissan... Lmao.

Depends on how it's dressed, Z's turn heads when there done right and real car guys don't put a price tag on customization. If it's hot, it's hot, could care less if it's $30k or $300k.

12-25-2015, 02:14 PM	#49 (permalink)
90 ST A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Calgary Posts: 1,861 Drives: 90 and 15 GMC Sierra Rep Power: 421	Since your going to keep it, I would spend a few bucks on gears for the diff, if you haven't already, and hold out for the next Z with the TT 3.0. sunkist350z likes this. __________________ Not driving your car to keep it in nice shape, is like not wanting to smash your girlfriend so she stays tight for the next guy.

12-25-2015, 03:52 PM	#51 (permalink)
TPrelude-370z Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Chicago, Il Posts: 243 Drives: 09-Tour-Sport-MB-6MT Rep Power: 14	What will the change in gears do for me and what would I be looking at cost wise? Pardon my lack of knowledge in this area. 90 ST likes this.

12-25-2015, 08:34 PM	#55 (permalink)
Nixin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: GWN Posts: 3,488 Drives: Goodbye Z! Rep Power: 19833	There are a few guys on my street with BMW's, a 135 an M3, an M4, a regular 4 and a regular 6 and I can tell you that they all drool when they see my Z. sunkist350z likes this.

12-25-2015, 09:53 PM	#57 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	i doubt any bmw leaser would drool over any other car... cause u know.. m4a1mustang, mishuko and JC-Nismo like this.

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12-25-2015, 01:20 AM	#46 (permalink)
TPrelude-370z Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Chicago, Il Posts: 243 Drives: 09-Tour-Sport-MB-6MT Rep Power: 14	Thanks. I wasn't even going to consider the carmax warranty as it can be suspect, but after hearing so many warnings, I would almost have to purchase it for peace of mind alone. Their warranties get mixed reviews, but the carmax I'm purchasing from gets nothing but great reviews. Buying any used car is a risk, especially if you don't even get to see the people that were driving it prior. I don't trust any inspections dealers or carmax claim, or CPO, they are still used cars and unknown territory. So many purchased and sold at auction that nobody knows much about the car until they already bought it.

12-25-2015, 01:23 AM	#47 (permalink)
TPrelude-370z Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Chicago, Il Posts: 243 Drives: 09-Tour-Sport-MB-6MT Rep Power: 14	If I'm that close to the threshold of expensive maintenance preventative, or failure, I am definitely leaning toward keeping the Z. Most of the responses say the same thing. Very tuner friendly and potentially quick, but unreliable enough that so many make mention of it. I know if I asked the question in reverse, nobody would even mention reliability regarding the Z.

12-25-2015, 01:40 PM	#48 (permalink)
sunkist350z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Z-land Posts: 1,009 Drives: 2012 370z sport 6-sp Rep Power: 55341	I am glad your keeping the z

12-25-2015, 03:51 PM	#50 (permalink)
TPrelude-370z Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Chicago, Il Posts: 243 Drives: 09-Tour-Sport-MB-6MT Rep Power: 14	It's so funny how all you guys are the voice of reason (even the 135 guys are), and I appreciate it. I'm a guy that usually goes against reason, but 90% of the time it has benefited me in life. I purchased the Z impulsively and that was one of the best decisions I have made. I purchased my ZX6R Ninja without ever even riding a bike or any motorized vehicle besides a car in my life. That was another great decision as I couldn't imagine not having a bike. Theo only bad impulse decision I made was joining the Army and serving 7 years (2 of which in Iraq). But even then, it has benefited me just as much as it has impaired me. I got married impulsively just before my second tour in Iraq (I figured I wouldn't make it back so what the heck, hahahaha). It was the best decision of my life and we only dated for 10 months or so. Had I not, I wouldn't be here right now. Sorry for the personal talk, I tend to rant. I have been researching non stop over the past few days and it looks like the 2012 135 with the single turbo is relatively reliable as compared to the earlier n54 twin turbo models. I've been driving the hell out of my Z the last 2 days and having a blast, but it's like that girlfriend you have had for a long time, the passion starts to fade over time. I always think the car I buy will be, "the one," and I will never get rid of it. I grow attached to them, but I also enjoy a new platform to play with. I have never had a car with significant tq, it would be nice to see what it's like. I'm actually enjoying all the responses and feedback in general.

12-25-2015, 07:26 PM	#54 (permalink)
TPrelude-370z Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Chicago, Il Posts: 243 Drives: 09-Tour-Sport-MB-6MT Rep Power: 14	interesting, thank you for the advice.