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veejayy 11-07-2009 07:01 AM

NISMO 370 and rain
 
So I am very close to picking up this car as my DD. Yes it is harsh but I don't care. Will be driven all year except if there is any snow.

How is it in the rain if you drive responsibly? My g37s is good in the rain (not great) but in a bad storm on the PA turnpike for over 2 hours this summer with ponding on the road it held its own as long as I was driving slow. The g has 45s in the back but the NISMO has much bigger tires so wonder if there is a difference.

thx.

DooDooBrown 11-07-2009 08:03 AM

The Z is my daily driver... It is not a Nismo, but I get the idea... You have to take it slow. When I go to work in the morning and its raining, the car doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. You can't drive like an ***, honestly, the fastest I ever take it when it is wet outside is 70mph, but even that feels WAYYY to fast. You just have to drive slowly, don't be in a rush when you go anywhere and it is wet out!

Irishrogue 11-07-2009 07:13 PM

To me the tires on the NISMO really dont seem to hold all too well, so when you are driving in the rain I would leave the VDC on and not drive like a jackass, but I DD my car with no problems. Course it only rains maybe 4 times a year here in vegas :p Its pretty low so I wouldn't go bombing through puddles or anything.

Greg 11-07-2009 07:24 PM

Bigger tires nor any electronic doodads will save you in the rain. Same rules apply to any moving vehicle driving in the wet. Slow down and go easy on the steering, brakes and throttle.

dcrew1x 11-07-2009 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by veejayy (Post 270696)
So I am very close to picking up this car as my DD. Yes it is harsh but I don't care. Will be driven all year except if there is any snow.

How is it in the rain if you drive responsibly? My g37s is good in the rain (not great) but in a bad storm on the PA turnpike for over 2 hours this summer with ponding on the road it held its own as long as I was driving slow. The g has 45s in the back but the NISMO has much bigger tires so wonder if there is a difference.

thx.

There is nothing "harsh" about using your Z as a DD :confused:

It's my DD and I have no problems driving in the rain. It rains a **** ton here in Georgia to give you an idea. Just take it easy with any car and watch for traffic around you.

RCZ 11-07-2009 07:41 PM

This is ridiculous...

Trips 11-07-2009 07:42 PM

I have driven mine in the rain, and it's like any other car when driving in the rain, drive cautious and don't drive like it's dry, that will keep you out if trouble,as handling it's pretty good in general and it feels secure on the turns, so drive responsible and you should be fine.. mine ain't a Nismo but you get the idea.

Smallywood 11-07-2009 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcrew1x (Post 271146)
There is nothing "harsh" about using your Z as a DD :confused:

It's my DD and I have no problems driving in the rain. It rains a **** ton here in Georgia to give you an idea. Just take it easy with any car and watch for traffic around you.

I think he was referring to the reviews that called the Nismo ride "harsh" as far as comfort.

dcrew1x 11-07-2009 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Smallywood (Post 271176)
I think he was referring to the reviews that called the Nismo ride "harsh" as far as comfort.

ahh gotcha.

Either way, just drive cautiously and you'll be fine.

Smallywood 11-07-2009 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcrew1x (Post 271184)
ahh gotcha.

Either way, just drive cautiously and you'll be fine.

I agree. No car will handle the same on wet roads as it does on dry roads. If you live in an area where it snows, I would definately say avoid the Z as a daily driver. It can be done, but will not be convenient.

MeetJoeAsian 11-07-2009 09:18 PM

Summer tires are made to work in the rain/wet, otherwise there will be a warning label telling you "DRIVE IN THE WET AT YOUR OWN RISK"...they're just not made to handle extreme performance in the rain, in other words, don't drive your car to the limit...I've driven my Z, and many "high performance summer tires" in the rain at high speed, they will not slip or be deemed "dangerous" as long as you drive with caution like you should in the rain...don't try to "pop a wheelie", or drift through sharp curves and you'll be fine...

Trips 11-07-2009 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeetJoeAsian (Post 271321)
Summer tires are made to work in the rain/wet, otherwise there will be a warning label telling you "DRIVE IN THE WET AT YOUR OWN RISK"...they're just not made to handle extreme performance in the rain, in other words, don't drive your car to the limit...I've driven my Z, and many "high performance summer tires" in the rain at high speed, they will not slip or be deemed "dangerous" as long as you drive with caution like you should in the rain...don't try to "pop a wheelie", or drift through sharp curves and you'll be fine...

I agree, no rooster tail drifting in the rain

vipor 11-07-2009 09:41 PM

My Nismo is great regardless of rain or not. I leave the VDC on 99% of the time as well as SynchroRevMatch. Just don't be a tard and hold back on the quick, high-revving shifts while it's wet and there's no issues.

blue660r01 11-07-2009 10:06 PM

You will be fine if you dont drive like a jackass....The Nismo is only 350hp....its not a supercar.....

StLRedrider 11-07-2009 10:09 PM

:wtf2:

resopaton 11-07-2009 10:35 PM

I live in Portland where it rains nearly daily this time of year. I have had the VDC turned off and haven't had any problems with the rear getting loose. I got on it a couple times, not in traffic, just to get a feel for the car on the wet roads and will say this, it doesn't take much for the rear end to begin to come around. Just take it easy on the wet roads, especially when not going in a strait line. It might be a good idea to practice on a large paved area just to get a feel for the car in case you have to take corrective action on the streets. Good luck and enjoy Nismo!

spearfish25 11-07-2009 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 271157)
This is ridiculous...

:icon18:

Driving in snow/winter driving threads are one thing. Now we're going to start the "should I get a Z if I drive on wet streets" thread?

Come on guys

resopaton 11-08-2009 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 271468)
:icon18:

Driving in snow/winter driving threads are one thing. Now we're going to start the "should I get a Z if I drive on wet streets" thread?

Come on guys

I simply responded to someone asking a question. I myself grew up in Northern Wisconsin (28 years) so I know how to drive in slippery conditions. I don't feel that someone asking about how a car handles in wet conditions is out of line. I just thought I would offer some insight just as others on this forum have answered some of my questions. I don't think any of us are in a position to judge anyones experience. We should welcome all questions and respect the fact that someone asked for help rather than find themselves in a position that causes damage or harm to another.

So, as to your ":icon18:" excuse me :driving:

Matt 11-08-2009 12:59 AM

I too would like to know if the Nismo drives crazy in the rain. I mean, 18 hp has gotta make the highway a virtual slip-n-slide compared to the base Z.

vipor 11-08-2009 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt (Post 271626)
I too would like to know if the Nismo drives crazy in the rain. I mean, 18 hp has gotta make the highway a virtual slip-n-slide compared to the base Z.

:iagree::wtf2:

kannibul 11-08-2009 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by veejayy (Post 270696)
How is it in the rain if you drive responsibly?


That is the key. :tiphat:

j.arnaldo 11-08-2009 08:49 AM

Aha, just reduce your speed, for obvious reasons. Hydroplaning is always a possibility, even with the "best" tires (opinions vary on that). Good luck, and congrats'!

spearfish25 11-08-2009 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by resopaton (Post 271620)
I simply responded to someone asking a question. I myself grew up in Northern Wisconsin (28 years) so I know how to drive in slippery conditions. I don't feel that someone asking about how a car handles in wet conditions is out of line. I just thought I would offer some insight just as others on this forum have answered some of my questions. I don't think any of us are in a position to judge anyones experience. We should welcome all questions and respect the fact that someone asked for help rather than find themselves in a position that causes damage or harm to another.

So, as to your ":icon18:" excuse me :driving:

Chillax buddy. The icon was pointing at my included quote from RCZ. None of that was directed at your reply to his question. But his initial post implied that he's considering NOT buying the Z as a daily driver because it could be unpredictable in rain. That's just silly.

NewlyIMPORTed 11-08-2009 04:24 PM

yeah not saying i drive like an idiot but i can bust through a puddle and i can feel the VDC take control you will be fine unless you drift on the highway haha

resopaton 11-08-2009 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 272271)
Chillax buddy. The icon was pointing at my included quote from RCZ. None of that was directed at your reply to his question. But his initial post implied that he's considering NOT buying the Z as a daily driver because it could be unpredictable in rain. That's just silly.

Sorry man, I must have been menstruating...

370Zsteve 11-08-2009 07:03 PM

:drama:

Trips 11-08-2009 07:13 PM

Keep it Civil Guys....

vipor 11-09-2009 03:22 PM

i typically just keep it in reverse when its raining. my work isn't happy with how that usually turns out.

shabarivas 11-09-2009 04:21 PM

even w/ vdc on the car can SLIDE a LOT in the rain w/ the sport tires+ -- just be safe you will be fine

ChrisSlicks 11-09-2009 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 273697)
even w/ vdc on the car can SLIDE a LOT in the rain w/ the sport tires+ -- just be safe you will be fine

I disagree, the car is very stable in the rain if you drive properly. I've taken 2 FTD's (fastest raw time of day) at auto-x in the Z. Just don't try to mash the gas pedal mid-corner with the VDC turned off. With VDC turned on you really can't get into trouble other than driving too fast.

shabarivas 11-09-2009 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 273775)
I disagree, the car is very stable in the rain if you drive properly. I've taken 2 FTD's (fastest raw time of day) at auto-x in the Z. Just don't try to mash the gas pedal mid-corner with the VDC turned off. With VDC turned on you really can't get into trouble other than driving too fast.

I can show you that ^ isnt true.. I live up a pretty good incline which has a few sweeping high speed turns that I take on dry conditions close to about 80 (she can go a lot faster but.... lotsa cops)...

One day it was POURING hard... got cut off by a charger who lost traction lane changing... I slam on my brakes to slow down to avoid rear ending him... INSTANTLY my rear slides out... And although VDC kicked in as I was mid corner - the rear threw itself out w/ the traction light blinking. If not for my reflex time which I spent countersteering I would have been in a ditch upside down. DO NOT EXPECT VDC to save you in the rain. All I am saying is... If you drive the same way you do when its dry when its wet - VDC on or off you will pay for it...

ChrisSlicks 11-09-2009 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 273807)
I can show you that ^ isnt true.. I live up a pretty good incline which has a few sweeping high speed turns that I take on dry conditions close to about 80 (she can go a lot faster but.... lotsa cops)...

One day it was POURING hard... got cut off by a charger who lost traction lane changing... I slam on my brakes to slow down to avoid rear ending him... INSTANTLY my rear slides out... And although VDC kicked in as I was mid corner - the rear threw itself out w/ the traction light blinking. If not for my reflex time which I spent countersteering I would have been in a ditch upside down. DO NOT EXPECT VDC to save you in the rain. All I am saying is... If you drive the same way you do when its dry when its wet - VDC on or off you will pay for it...

Slamming on the brakes mid-corner is going to upset just about any car. The Z has an incredible amount of traction in the dry, so yes, if you try to drive the same way in the wet you are going to get a surprise. However if you drive sanely you won't have any trouble.

bluzman 11-10-2009 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 271329)
I agree, no rooster tail drifting in the rain

I agree too but when running in a straight line on a rain soaked road, this baby does throw a nice natural rooster tail for the viewing pleasure of those behind you. :tup:

rcm2525 11-12-2009 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veejayy (Post 270696)
So I am very close to picking up this car as my DD. Yes it is harsh but I don't care. Will be driven all year except if there is any snow.

How is it in the rain if you drive responsibly? My g37s is good in the rain (not great) but in a bad storm on the PA turnpike for over 2 hours this summer with ponding on the road it held its own as long as I was driving slow. The g has 45s in the back but the NISMO has much bigger tires so wonder if there is a difference.

thx.

I've been driving in this Atlantic storm for the last 2 days and about 250+miles and the NISMO is much more stable than my last car a 2005 Mustang GT, and the stang had 235s all around. So I wouldn't worry about the rain.

This is my DD and I don't find the ride harsh. Firm yes but not harsh and 50+ miles a day of my commute are on mountain washboard roads with no lines.

Try it you'll like it..:driving:

j.arnaldo 11-12-2009 11:48 AM

...ahhh, the blessings of living in the Tropics...Truly a DD's experience! Greetings from Puerto Rico, dudes!

Matt 11-12-2009 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcm2525 (Post 276836)
I've been driving in this Atlantic storm for the last 2 days and about 250+miles and the NISMO is much more stable than my last car a 2005 Mustang GT, and the stang had 235s all around. So I wouldn't worry about the rain.

This is my DD and I don't find the ride harsh. Firm yes but not harsh and 50+ miles a day of my commute are on mountain washboard roads with no lines.

Try it you'll like it..:driving:

I've been in the southern stretch of this storm for the past 3-4 days, and I can say the Z's the best car I've had in the rain. I still haven't been able to spin tires in it with VDC on, rain or not. My Scion tC spun tires if the ground had so much as a puddle nearby.

My buddy's 280z says he spins tires several times on his drive to our job if it's raining and wished his older car had the stability controls the new Z has.


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