The carmax and carfax fight (will update regularly)

37zeroZ · 11-24-2015, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbc749

Sir, take as much as you can, you deserve justice for this issue. Do it for everyone else who has had similar BS issues and hasn't been able to do a darn thing about it.

Do if for me, who took my Z into the local Nissan Dealership and they pushed it onto the curb and promptly left it there. sitting with the bumper planted on the concrete. And then when I came to pick up the car, I found white residue covering the entire front fender. Of which they took 45 minutes to buff out (doesn't take 45 minutes to buff 1 panel). and then come out and say "well I haven't any idea where that would have come from". For me to reply, look I have video of it being loaded onto the flatbed to be delivered here (steering lock failed of course) would you like to see it? you can clearly see that there was nothing there before. Now there is, I don't care where it came from. Since my Z has been sitting here its been crashed into a curb and this incident. Do it for me, who also has a 2010 370z, late model year, in which Nissan refused to replace my failed steering lock because it was the RevC part and only the RevB is covered under recall, although my RevC failed in EXACTLY the same way as the RevB. I feel like I have a small case there but I don't have the money to do anything about it. Do it for me, who had a similar issue with the Clutch Slave Cylinder failed while I was in the middle of nowhere Nebraska, 4 hours away from home, and Nissan claims that the clutch slave cylinder is not covered under my power train warranty.

Go after these scumbags and get some justice.

Sounds like a Bernie and/or Hillary campaign talking point.

SwissCheese · 12-22-2015, 10:09 PM

Any updates?

njobe89 · 12-23-2015, 07:27 AM

we must have different definitions of what "will update regularly" means

BamBamZ · 12-24-2015, 08:36 AM

When I receive updates that can be shared publicly, I will post them...

The attorney is building his case and I believe sent a letter to carmax corporate with demands some time ago.

birdman71 · 12-24-2015, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamBamZ

When I receive updates that can be shared publicly, I will post them...

The attorney is building his case and I believe sent a letter to carmax corporate with demands some time ago.

Yeahh, I honestly wouldn't post much more about this until the lawsuit is actually settled, just to not test anything.

Good luck

littlejuanito · 12-24-2015, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman71

Yeahh, I honestly wouldn't post much more about this until the lawsuit is actually settled, just to not test anything.

Good luck

But.... We wanna be updated

birdman71 · 12-24-2015, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlejuanito

But.... We wanna be updated

Just in a lawsuit there are plenty of things that your cant talk about publically until the lawsuit is over, or not at all.

Since this has been a mess from the start, It's better to be too cautious than to be like it'll be alright, post some stuff and get it thrown back at the end and that is what makes it from getting what is owed to him.

Big Corporations like that will search for any and all reasons to find some sort of issue to make the case null and void. They have many million dollar lawyers working on it too. Just have to give yourself the best chance possible.

Inspector71 · 01-04-2016, 11:06 AM

I have all my papers together and am mailing my letter to the local Chrysler dealer demanding the rectify the problem; selling me a car that either through deception or negligence they failed to disclose had been in a major front end collision. I have a witness to their declarations that the car had not been in any accidents, had any problems, or been subject to recall. I don't have high expectations that they will do what is right. Without threats, I notified them that I was holding off contacting the state attorney general, better business bureau, five Chrysler forums I belong to, Chrysler Club I belong to, and ah yes...social media.

BamBamZ · 10-29-2016, 09:43 AM

I was advised to shut up... So I couldn't give any more updates, But it's now just about over and everything is in contract.

So, My attorney pretty much slept on the case until about a month ago... I'm sure many of you saw the article on jalopnik or somewhere else about the supreme court saying that Carmax's certification process violates consumer protection laws.

California Court Says CarMax Certification Violates Consumer Protection Law

My attorney was pretty busy, But it looks like he likes dealing with carmax all at once as the same time he started emailing me about how that case was going and how he's starting on mine (only took nearly a year).

Here's a youtube video of that hearing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtfwYwRauDI

But, Regardless how long it took I'm glad it's over and over time I just kept paying in to the Z that I'll get back.

He sent a letter of demands and gave them 30 days to respond, in 3 weeks they replied with an offer... They will pay off the Z, Take it back, Give me my down payment back ($11K), Pay back every payment I've made ($5k) and all the repairs I have receipts for ($1700'ish) and carmax will not be considered at fault for any of it. The attorney takes 10% of the higher part of $17K so he's getting I think $1760 (or something like that) and i'm getting the rest.

I don't care whose fault it is as long as I get my money back. The Z's pay off is $14K and I turn it in on Monday.

The car was actually pretty decent in between, The CSC didn't fail or act up but I see the front tires are finally showing wear, The head unit gets a bit possessed at times by turning itself on and the bumper has began to droop on the corner. But overall, Not really any recent issues.

Mods are not being repaid though, So I gave the TWM abrams M1 shift knob to a friend at work and replaced it with a cool looking but not matching dragon ball z knob I got off amazon for $15... I'm too lazy to switch back out the TWM short shifter or take off the eibach wheel spacers so it'll be a nice surprise for the next poor guy that buys it.

The attorney did say that my "clutch problem" was due to me driving it like a sports car, That I unnecessarily upgraded to "sport" tires and the pair of speakers I had a receipt for were "upgrades"... But said he'd give me the benefit of the doubt and count them.

The clutch problem was the CSC going out twice, I told the attorney that the clutch which is a wear item is perfectly fine but it was instead the slave cylinder which is not a typical wear item went bad twice because of a poor design by being made out of plastic.

That tires are not cheap for 19" wheels, The tires I got are indeed better but did not cost much more than the OEM brand tire due to a employee discount I get through my work (tirerack [i don't work for tirerack, but we get discounts from them]) and that I have it noted that the tires on there were worn out on the inside due to the negative camber so it needed to be replaced earlier than usual.

And those upgraded pair of speakers, Were from Nissan... When I bought the car the 2 speakers on the dashboard were dried out and blown. So I went to the dealership to replace them with OEM speakers... They were by no means upgraded but instead replaced.

But since they were paying for it, there was no need to make the arguments.

I'm looking at cars now to replace it maybe in another week or so, Whenever the settlement check rolls in.

Looking at 2016/17 2SS Camaro, Test drove one last week as a friend works at a nearby dealership. Fast, relatively quiet (exhaust note was prominent in sport/track mode), smooth (magnetic suspension), seats were comfortable (cooled seats worked well), steering wheel was surprisingly direct like the Z's but way to heavy in track mode and has plenty of techy toys... Visibility was poor but livable, a lot of hard plastics on the dash and doors, build quality left a bit to be desired as the gaps were not even, the window trim looked to be lifting, the dealer added ground effects fit like **** and there was definitely some wind noise coming from the mirrors. But overall, I was impressed by the car.

2017 Ford Fusion Sport, Haven't had any experience with these but they seem interesting.

2016 Ford Edge Sport, Again no experience but driving Tesla Model X's all day I begin to wish I had an SUV for the ample space when I get off work.

I'm looking for the opposite of the Z, Not exact opposite but... Comfortable, I'm fat although losing weight and 6' tall. I don't want to have to fall in to get in the car, or crawl out and feel claustrophobic each time I'm in it... After each 12 hour shift at work, Using a clutch becomes a chore, especially at the end of the week when I'm sore. So I'm looking at automatics, The camaro will be an 8 speed automatic. It has remote start with an app thingy and it's faster than a manual, it just loses a bit of it's fun factor but not enough to make the argument that much convincing.

Bad Boy · 10-29-2016, 09:49 AM

Ive had nothing buy good experiences with Carmax, Ive bought 3 cars from them and they offer really good extended warranties. Hassle free repairs.

BamBamZ · 10-29-2016, 09:54 AM

My dads E90 that he got from carmax spends more time in the shop or outside waiting to be taken to the shop than on the road... He bought it a week after I got my Z (February 2015) with 57K miles, I have been borrowing it the last several days and just rolled over to 70K because of how often it has issues.

He emailed my attorney yesterday to see if he would represent him in suing carmax too given that they violated the consumer protection law when selling him his car that clearly did not under go the guaranteed inspection (it leaked a quart of oil the first day he got it, spent weeks at carmax getting sillicone sealant put around the leak), that didn't fix it so it spent another several weeks for the same thing... that extended warranty I talked him in to has paid for itself already.

ChopsZ · 10-29-2016, 11:20 AM

All good reasons NOT to buy a used vehicle. I'm not rich by any means, but I only purchase brand new cars, and only when I know I can afford to do so.

shirokenkami · 10-29-2016, 12:55 PM

The last quality BMW was the E30 M3... Glad to know that this is being resolved on your end.

onzedge · 10-29-2016, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Sorry for all that pain in the ***, hire a lawyer.

And this is why I call CarFax CarFucks, because it's 100% bullshít.

BamBamZ · 11-15-2016, 08:43 AM

The cursed 370Z is for sale in Hayward now.

2009 Nissan Z 370Z For Sale in Sacramento, CA - JN1AZ44E59M402001

12-22-2015, 10:09 PM	#77 (permalink)
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01-04-2016, 11:06 AM	#83 (permalink)
Inspector71 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lee's Summit Missouri Posts: 337 Drives: 2015 Pearl White Z Rep Power: 16	Title:Good luck man I have all my papers together and am mailing my letter to the local Chrysler dealer demanding the rectify the problem; selling me a car that either through deception or negligence they failed to disclose had been in a major front end collision. I have a witness to their declarations that the car had not been in any accidents, had any problems, or been subject to recall. I don't have high expectations that they will do what is right. Without threats, I notified them that I was holding off contacting the state attorney general, better business bureau, five Chrysler forums I belong to, Chrysler Club I belong to, and ah yes...social media.

10-29-2016, 11:20 AM	#87 (permalink)
ChopsZ Track Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Central Florida Age: 49 Posts: 965 Drives: 2016 370Z GM 6MT Rep Power: 2301	All good reasons NOT to buy a used vehicle. I'm not rich by any means, but I only purchase brand new cars, and only when I know I can afford to do so. __________________ She's For Sale! PERFORMANCE: Aero Workz \| Akebono \| BC Racing \| EcuTek \| HKS \| MaxBore \| Motordyne \| Nismo \| RJM \| SPL \| StopTech \| Z1 AUDIO: Arc Audio \| Bazooka \| Helix \| Pioneer \| Stereo Integrity

10-29-2016, 12:55 PM	#88 (permalink)
shirokenkami Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Middle Tennessee Age: 38 Posts: 232 Drives: 2013 Z Tour Spt 6mt Rep Power: 23	The last quality BMW was the E30 M3... Glad to know that this is being resolved on your end. AestheticCM1 likes this. __________________ “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”- Edmund Burke

12-24-2015, 08:36 AM	#79 (permalink)
BamBamZ Base Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Mountain House, CA Posts: 95 Drives: Touring/Sport/6spd Rep Power: 10	When I receive updates that can be shared publicly, I will post them... The attorney is building his case and I believe sent a letter to carmax corporate with demands some time ago.

10-29-2016, 09:43 AM	#84 (permalink)
BamBamZ Base Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Mountain House, CA Posts: 95 Drives: Touring/Sport/6spd Rep Power: 10	I was advised to shut up... So I couldn't give any more updates, But it's now just about over and everything is in contract. So, My attorney pretty much slept on the case until about a month ago... I'm sure many of you saw the article on jalopnik or somewhere else about the supreme court saying that Carmax's certification process violates consumer protection laws. California Court Says CarMax Certification Violates Consumer Protection Law My attorney was pretty busy, But it looks like he likes dealing with carmax all at once as the same time he started emailing me about how that case was going and how he's starting on mine (only took nearly a year). Here's a youtube video of that hearing... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtfwYwRauDI But, Regardless how long it took I'm glad it's over and over time I just kept paying in to the Z that I'll get back. He sent a letter of demands and gave them 30 days to respond, in 3 weeks they replied with an offer... They will pay off the Z, Take it back, Give me my down payment back ($11K), Pay back every payment I've made ($5k) and all the repairs I have receipts for ($1700'ish) and carmax will not be considered at fault for any of it. The attorney takes 10% of the higher part of $17K so he's getting I think $1760 (or something like that) and i'm getting the rest. I don't care whose fault it is as long as I get my money back. The Z's pay off is $14K and I turn it in on Monday. The car was actually pretty decent in between, The CSC didn't fail or act up but I see the front tires are finally showing wear, The head unit gets a bit possessed at times by turning itself on and the bumper has began to droop on the corner. But overall, Not really any recent issues. Mods are not being repaid though, So I gave the TWM abrams M1 shift knob to a friend at work and replaced it with a cool looking but not matching dragon ball z knob I got off amazon for $15... I'm too lazy to switch back out the TWM short shifter or take off the eibach wheel spacers so it'll be a nice surprise for the next poor guy that buys it. The attorney did say that my "clutch problem" was due to me driving it like a sports car, That I unnecessarily upgraded to "sport" tires and the pair of speakers I had a receipt for were "upgrades"... But said he'd give me the benefit of the doubt and count them. The clutch problem was the CSC going out twice, I told the attorney that the clutch which is a wear item is perfectly fine but it was instead the slave cylinder which is not a typical wear item went bad twice because of a poor design by being made out of plastic. That tires are not cheap for 19" wheels, The tires I got are indeed better but did not cost much more than the OEM brand tire due to a employee discount I get through my work (tirerack [i don't work for tirerack, but we get discounts from them]) and that I have it noted that the tires on there were worn out on the inside due to the negative camber so it needed to be replaced earlier than usual. And those upgraded pair of speakers, Were from Nissan... When I bought the car the 2 speakers on the dashboard were dried out and blown. So I went to the dealership to replace them with OEM speakers... They were by no means upgraded but instead replaced. But since they were paying for it, there was no need to make the arguments. I'm looking at cars now to replace it maybe in another week or so, Whenever the settlement check rolls in. Looking at 2016/17 2SS Camaro, Test drove one last week as a friend works at a nearby dealership. Fast, relatively quiet (exhaust note was prominent in sport/track mode), smooth (magnetic suspension), seats were comfortable (cooled seats worked well), steering wheel was surprisingly direct like the Z's but way to heavy in track mode and has plenty of techy toys... Visibility was poor but livable, a lot of hard plastics on the dash and doors, build quality left a bit to be desired as the gaps were not even, the window trim looked to be lifting, the dealer added ground effects fit like **** and there was definitely some wind noise coming from the mirrors. But overall, I was impressed by the car. 2017 Ford Fusion Sport, Haven't had any experience with these but they seem interesting. 2016 Ford Edge Sport, Again no experience but driving Tesla Model X's all day I begin to wish I had an SUV for the ample space when I get off work. I'm looking for the opposite of the Z, Not exact opposite but... Comfortable, I'm fat although losing weight and 6' tall. I don't want to have to fall in to get in the car, or crawl out and feel claustrophobic each time I'm in it... After each 12 hour shift at work, Using a clutch becomes a chore, especially at the end of the week when I'm sore. So I'm looking at automatics, The camaro will be an 8 speed automatic. It has remote start with an app thingy and it's faster than a manual, it just loses a bit of it's fun factor but not enough to make the argument that much convincing.

10-29-2016, 09:49 AM	#85 (permalink)
Bad Boy Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Orlando Age: 33 Posts: 295 Drives: 370Z 6SPD Touring Rep Power: 11	Ive had nothing buy good experiences with Carmax, Ive bought 3 cars from them and they offer really good extended warranties. Hassle free repairs.

10-29-2016, 09:54 AM	#86 (permalink)
BamBamZ Base Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Mountain House, CA Posts: 95 Drives: Touring/Sport/6spd Rep Power: 10	My dads E90 that he got from carmax spends more time in the shop or outside waiting to be taken to the shop than on the road... He bought it a week after I got my Z (February 2015) with 57K miles, I have been borrowing it the last several days and just rolled over to 70K because of how often it has issues. He emailed my attorney yesterday to see if he would represent him in suing carmax too given that they violated the consumer protection law when selling him his car that clearly did not under go the guaranteed inspection (it leaked a quart of oil the first day he got it, spent weeks at carmax getting sillicone sealant put around the leak), that didn't fix it so it spent another several weeks for the same thing... that extended warranty I talked him in to has paid for itself already.

11-15-2016, 08:43 AM	#90 (permalink)
BamBamZ Base Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Mountain House, CA Posts: 95 Drives: Touring/Sport/6spd Rep Power: 10	The cursed 370Z is for sale in Hayward now. 2009 Nissan Z 370Z For Sale in Sacramento, CA - JN1AZ44E59M402001

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