The carmax and carfax fight (will update regularly)

Inspector71

In 2014, angry at a constant csc problem, I rashly and foolishly sold my red 2009 base Z for a 2010 Dodge Challenger RT. After a short time, I realized i was really a sports car guy and not interested in being the captain of a 4100 pound boat (I called her the "Minnow"). I should have known. I have had 6 Rx7s and still have my 84 GSL-SE. This week, Wednesday, I go to trade my clean as a whistle black pearl RT with 32K babied miles on a 2015 "used" Z. That's when I was told my Challenger had been in a front end wreck. But, I told them, the Lee's Summit Chrysler Dodge dealership showed me a carfax and told me the car had not had any problems, recalls or accidents. They LIED through their teeth and sold me a repaired car. I wondered why the hood did not align perfectly and why, after a while, the right headlight began to wander like the light on a train locomotive. Electrical problems? Oh yeah. Now I am going to follow your footsteps. I am sure Lee's Summit Missouri Chrysler will tell me tough luck. I will ask them if the bad press they are going to receive from me is worth it? I wish you luck. I think the folks you bought the car from are a bunch of crooks.

BamBamZ

I looked up price difference the 14k makes in retail, just a grand. I'd have no issues deducting $1k from the $32k I'm probably going to sue for.

Lemon law only covers new cars, this falls under illegal dealership practices and fraud

Damn sorry to hear, good luck. Never hurts to try

kenchan

reported accidents can take time to show up on carfax, so it may not be that your dealer lied to you.. they may just not have had the info when you bought it or when they accepted the trade.

dat's wat i meant about selling a repaired car before it shows up on carfax. the next buyer is the one that takes on the responsibilities to know wat they are buying. carfax is only a documented way to check history, but you really need to look over the car REAL well before thinking there is no problem(s) with the car. like one can fix a car by himself after hitting a tree and it would not show up on carfax if unreported.

GraphiteZ

I highly doubt that the dealer couldn't tell a car was in an accident after all the prepping before putting it on the used car lot. The outdated clean carfax report at that time just helped them to complete the lie.

kenchan

u can choose to think that way and make yourself miserable, or you can think positively and move on with your life.

at the end, the dealers and the world dont really care about you.. sad but true.

Inspector71

I bought the Challenger in December of 2014. The car was a 2010 and I believe wrecked in 2011. I kept wondering about the gouge or "dip" in the metal on the right and left kick panel metal, indicative of buckling, and the hood that never seemed to look as if shut all the way. I was told that was how they looked. Should have asked more questions. I specifically asked if it had been in any kind of accident and they said no, never, and it was pristine. The car never left the area. It was first bought in Liberty Missouri, sold to the second owner at the Lee's Summit dealer, then sold back at the same dealer and bought by me at the same dealer. The Dodge dealer in Overland Park, Kansas took but seconds to discover the report of the crash from back in 2011. It had not only that information but when I had brought the car in for oil changes...in 2015. It was very up to date. They knew. Kenchan, please don't take this wrong, but standing up against people who do you wrong shouldn't be considered as making one miserable. If people don't stand up against this, it just goes on. Getting justice never made me feel miserable. Warning others doesn't either.

kenchan

yah, standing up for one's self is good and helping/warning others is honorable. and you seem to be okay with it, so GL to your work and hope you find that resolution.

i know id be too lazy to go through with it all..