Decided on a Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track over the 370.. here is why.

nurburgring · 11-02-2009, 04:32 PM

Well the time finally came to sit down and buy my Z. The dealer was being.. well a dealer and started playing games with numbers that we had not agreed to and that he said he could get lower.

Anyway, walked out thinking I was going to go to the next nissan dealer. Decided to walk right next door to the hyundai dealership the whole time dismissing the Gen Coupe in my mind. Saw it in pics and it was ugly. Let me tell ya, in person it looks a helluva lot better especially the track model with the 19 inch wheels and red brembo's. Car comes with pretty much everything. Heated leather seats, Touch screen Nav, bluetooth, climate control, shift paddles, push button start, HID lights, limited slip dif, brembos, track suspension, 312 horsepower (with premium Fuel) and the list goes on all for $31,500. I was pretty amazed at the quality of this car and how well equipped it is for its price point.

Still I said, this thing probably drives like a heap of sh*t. Had to give it a good test drive. Took it out and surprise surprise this thing can move and takes the corners very nicely. The shift paddles are very responsive and the Brembos bring you to a stop in a hurry. Its a little harsh on the shitty jersey roads because of its track setup but that is to be expected. 0-60 comes in at about 5.8 seconds. Not quite as fast as the Z but honestly its still damn quick. It has a better exhaust sound then the Z also. A nice deep pur when you hit the gas. The Z is a bit harsh sounding. The interior is nicer then the Z. No doubt about it. Its immediately obvious when you get in, different league. I do wish that it had 25-30 more HP to match the Z in speed but those numbers are more bragging rights then anything because you cant even come close to pushing the Gen Coupe to its limits on the street. None the less, that extra 25 HP would help me match you guys on the track.

It all comes down to this, I love the 370z its a great car. But with the genesis coupe 3.8 track I get pretty much everything the Z has at almost 10 grand less!! I just could not justify the Z after driving the Genesis Coupe.

Matt · 11-02-2009, 04:37 PM

Nice write-up on the Genesis.

I, too, looked into the Genesis Coupe. Even have a friend that could guarantee me a few hundred below invoice at a nearby dealership on it. But from the exterior alone, I could not choose it over the Z. It has some hideous lines on it that resemble the Tiburon, which is my vote for the ugliest car since 1990. I don't agree with you on the interior either...I prefer the Z.

I am definitely looking at Hyundai for my family car though, maybe the Santa Fe or Veracruz.

JoeD · 11-02-2009, 04:37 PM

Cool.

JungleB · 11-02-2009, 04:37 PM

Congrats on your new car!

kannibul · 11-02-2009, 04:41 PM

Personally, I clicked with the Z. There wasn't much else I looked at from the "unpractical" side of things, the Mustang GT / GT500 being the above and below options...

If neither of those, I'd have gotten a new truck or a jeep.

nurburgring · 11-02-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt

Nice write-up on the Genesis.

I, too, looked into the Genesis Coupe. Even have a friend that could guarantee me a few hundred below invoice at a nearby dealership on it. But from the exterior alone, I could not choose it over the Z. It has some hideous lines on it that resemble the Tiburon, which is my vote for the ugliest car since 1990. I don't agree with you on the interior either...I prefer the Z.

see i think the tiburon looks like a piece of garbage. it looks nothing like a tiburon to me. especially the track model. did you see a track model or a base model?

i would agree 100% though that this car is not camera friendly. looks like absolute crap in every picture i have seen of it. lol

speedoflife · 11-02-2009, 04:43 PM

Glad you got what you wanted!
I have read that, minus power/straight line, the Genesis is pretty competitive with the Z.

at least you didn't crash the Genesis on the test drive...

nurburgring · 11-02-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by speedoflife

Glad you got what you wanted!

at least you didn't crash the Genesis on the test drive...

theDreamer · 11-02-2009, 04:48 PM

Did not know the gen coupe had nav yet? Also thought it was not going to be in the track model?
The issue I had with the gen coupe after testing driving a Z then moving to the gen coupe, the coupe is definitely slower in all aspects. Not a huge deal when you look at the price, but considering I paid 31,500 and just lost the luxury features I think I came out ahead.

Mergnthwirker · 11-02-2009, 04:50 PM

The Hyundai folks are actively courting the tuner crowd and factory support and dealer support for mods [wink, wink] should be better than the Nissan. Might not be true if the motors start popping when the wick is turned up, but this engine is well-known in its other guises, and should be fairly reliable.

Anyway, the point is you can make it faster than a stock Z without spending huge amounts, so if straight-line performance is your bag, it might be a pretty good buy.

For my own sake, I appreciate the racing heritage and strong sports car roots of the Z, and frankly I just think it looks much better. But that is my choice, and in no way says that your choice was bad.

Enjoy your new ride!

nurburgring · 11-02-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Did not know the gen coupe had nav yet? Also thought it was not going to be in the track model?
The issue I had with the gen coupe after testing driving a Z then moving to the gen coupe, the coupe is definitely slower in all aspects. Not a huge deal when you look at the price, but considering I paid 31,500 and just lost the luxury features I think I came out ahead.

yea, came out with Nav in august.

you got the sport model Z for 31,500? limited slip dif, wheels, spoiler etc..? i assume so because you said "lost the luxury features".

if so that is a great deal.

nurburgring · 11-02-2009, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mergnthwirker

The Hyundai folks are actively courting the tuner crowd and factory support and dealer support for mods [wink, wink] should be better than the Nissan. Might not be true if the motors start popping when the wick is turned up, but this engine is well-known in its other guises, and should be fairly reliable.

Anyway, the point is you can make it faster than a stock Z without spending huge amounts, so if straight-line performance is your bag, it might be a pretty good buy.

For my own sake, I appreciate the racing heritage and strong sports car roots of the Z, and frankly I just think it looks much better. But that is my choice, and in no way says that your choice was bad.

Enjoy your new ride!

yea, they have already tuned the 3.8 V6 up to 400 whp.

thats not my thing though. i like the car as is.

theDreamer · 11-02-2009, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nurburgring

yea, came out with Nav in august.

you got the sport model Z for 31,500? limited slip dif, wheels, spoiler etc..? i assume so because you said "lost the luxury features".

if so that is a great deal.

Yep, base with sport, I was offered a track 2009 gen coupe with whatever it came with in 2009 for 28,500. The guy was not pushy about it at all and it got me thinking, but after the test drive I told him flat out the Z just took it away with the performance. He was not upset, and agreed, but the gen coupe is a solid competitor and at the cheap price it gives you plenty of room to do anything you want.

cdawg410 · 11-02-2009, 05:02 PM

Smart buy man, I certainly think the Genesis is a sweet ride. Unfortunately car buyers have really long memories so Hyundai is still frowned upon by the uninformed but I really do think the Genesis is a worthy competitor to our beloved Z and once we as consumers get over ourselves (myself included), more buyers of our ilk will seriously consider the Hyundai product.

There is no excuse for the green color though.

ChrisSlicks · 11-02-2009, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nurburgring

yea, came out with Nav in august.

you got the sport model Z for 31,500? limited slip dif, wheels, spoiler etc..? i assume so because you said "lost the luxury features".

if so that is a great deal.

Early in the year when sales were low and stock was high a lot of us got the base w/sport for between 30500 and 31900. I got mine for 30800.

However with the Genesis if you can get Nav and all the other goodies such as brakes, real diff, suspension (oil cooler?) for 31500 then that is a great deal.

11-02-2009, 04:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
nurburgring Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 224 Drives: Blah Rep Power: 16	Decided on a Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track over the 370.. here is why. Well the time finally came to sit down and buy my Z. The dealer was being.. well a dealer and started playing games with numbers that we had not agreed to and that he said he could get lower. Anyway, walked out thinking I was going to go to the next nissan dealer. Decided to walk right next door to the hyundai dealership the whole time dismissing the Gen Coupe in my mind. Saw it in pics and it was ugly. Let me tell ya, in person it looks a helluva lot better especially the track model with the 19 inch wheels and red brembo's. Car comes with pretty much everything. Heated leather seats, Touch screen Nav, bluetooth, climate control, shift paddles, push button start, HID lights, limited slip dif, brembos, track suspension, 312 horsepower (with premium Fuel) and the list goes on all for $31,500. I was pretty amazed at the quality of this car and how well equipped it is for its price point. Still I said, this thing probably drives like a heap of sht. Had to give it a good test drive. Took it out and surprise surprise this thing can move and takes the corners very nicely. The shift paddles are very responsive and the Brembos bring you to a stop in a hurry. Its a little harsh on the shitty jersey roads because of its track setup but that is to be expected. 0-60 comes in at about 5.8 seconds. Not quite as fast as the Z but honestly its still damn quick. It has a better exhaust sound then the Z also. A nice deep pur when you hit the gas. The Z is a bit harsh sounding. The interior is nicer then the Z. No doubt about it. Its immediately obvious when you get in, different league. I do wish that it had 25-30 more HP to match the Z in speed but those numbers are more bragging rights then anything because you cant even come close to pushing the Gen Coupe to its limits on the street. None the less, that extra 25 HP would help me match you guys on the track. It all comes down to this, I love the 370z its a great car. But with the genesis coupe 3.8 track I get pretty much everything the Z has at almost 10 grand less!! I just could not justify the Z after driving the Genesis Coupe. Last edited by nurburgring; 11-02-2009 at 04:37 PM.*

11-02-2009, 04:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Did not know the gen coupe had nav yet? Also thought it was not going to be in the track model? The issue I had with the gen coupe after testing driving a Z then moving to the gen coupe, the coupe is definitely slower in all aspects. Not a huge deal when you look at the price, but considering I paid 31,500 and just lost the luxury features I think I came out ahead. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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11-02-2009, 04:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
Matt A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Augusta, GA Age: 41 Posts: 1,680 Drives: 2010 Avalanche LT Rep Power: 19	Nice write-up on the Genesis. I, too, looked into the Genesis Coupe. Even have a friend that could guarantee me a few hundred below invoice at a nearby dealership on it. But from the exterior alone, I could not choose it over the Z. It has some hideous lines on it that resemble the Tiburon, which is my vote for the ugliest car since 1990. I don't agree with you on the interior either...I prefer the Z. I am definitely looking at Hyundai for my family car though, maybe the Santa Fe or Veracruz.

11-02-2009, 04:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
JoeD Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: CA Posts: 495 Drives: Z Rep Power: 0	Cool.

11-02-2009, 04:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
JungleB Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: PA Posts: 76 Drives: 96 VW Passat GLX Rep Power: 16	Congrats on your new car!

11-02-2009, 04:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
kannibul A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Jenks, OK Posts: 2,281 Drives: 370z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 267	Personally, I clicked with the Z. There wasn't much else I looked at from the "unpractical" side of things, the Mustang GT / GT500 being the above and below options... If neither of those, I'd have gotten a new truck or a jeep.

11-02-2009, 04:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
speedoflife Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MS/TX Posts: 268 Drives: '06 Pontiac G.P. Rep Power: 16	Glad you got what you wanted! I have read that, minus power/straight line, the Genesis is pretty competitive with the Z. at least you didn't crash the Genesis on the test drive...

11-02-2009, 04:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mergnthwirker Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Connecticut USA Posts: 243 Drives: '09 370Z PW MT6 S Rep Power: 16	The Hyundai folks are actively courting the tuner crowd and factory support and dealer support for mods [wink, wink] should be better than the Nissan. Might not be true if the motors start popping when the wick is turned up, but this engine is well-known in its other guises, and should be fairly reliable. Anyway, the point is you can make it faster than a stock Z without spending huge amounts, so if straight-line performance is your bag, it might be a pretty good buy. For my own sake, I appreciate the racing heritage and strong sports car roots of the Z, and frankly I just think it looks much better. But that is my choice, and in no way says that your choice was bad. Enjoy your new ride!

11-02-2009, 05:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
cdawg410 Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: alexandria, va Posts: 238 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 16	Smart buy man, I certainly think the Genesis is a sweet ride. Unfortunately car buyers have really long memories so Hyundai is still frowned upon by the uninformed but I really do think the Genesis is a worthy competitor to our beloved Z and once we as consumers get over ourselves (myself included), more buyers of our ilk will seriously consider the Hyundai product. There is no excuse for the green color though.