Can you shoot flames?

Firebase99 · 09-15-2015, 10:30 AM

Gosh, I remember the first time I was shot out of a cannon.

SouthArk370Z · 09-15-2015, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by xnick101

So can anyone's car with test pipes shoot flames? Only reason am asking is because I am debating whether to get Fast Intentions Resonated test pipes or FI RHFC. If I can't shoot flames I am just going to get the RHFC. It will be paired with an invidia gemini catback.

Not sure why one would want to do this but:

Flames out the tailpipe are the result of having flammables (primarily unburnt fuel, elemental carbon, and carbon monoxide) in the exhaust gases. These will ignite when they hits the oxygen in the atmosphere - if they are hot enough. If the gasses have cooled below the auto-ignition point when they reach the exhaust exit, there will be no flames.

Cats turn the flammables into carbon dioxide, which doesn't burn.

So, if you want flames, ditch the cats and go with short pipes (less cooling). Detuning the engine to run rich will "help."

Keep in mind that if you are running rich and get air into the exhaust you have a severe fire hazard. Plus there's the risk of drawing carbon monoxide into the cabin. All-in-all not a great idea but it's your car/life.

xnick101 · 09-15-2015, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Not sure why one would want to do this but:

Flames out the tailpipe are the result of having flammables (primarily unburnt fuel, elemental carbon, and carbon monoxide) in the exhaust gases. These will ignite when they hits the oxygen in the atmosphere - if they are hot enough. If the gasses have cooled below the auto-ignition point when they reach the exhaust exit, there will be no flames.

Cats turn the flammables into carbon dioxide, which doesn't burn.

So, if you want flames, ditch the cats and go with short pipes (less cooling). Detuning the engine to run rich will "help."

Keep in mind that if you are running rich and get air into the exhaust you have a severe fire hazard. Plus there's the risk of drawing carbon monoxide into the cabin. All-in-all not a great idea but it's your car/life.

Thanks for the information, but it's not about wanting to do this, it's asking if it will happen or not. I'm not trying to make the A/F ratio run 9's all day either. There are people with proper tunes that can shoot flames under WOT. It won't happen every time, just now and then

Davey · 09-15-2015, 04:09 PM

I keep trying to shoot flames, but the bullets go right through them.

mishuko · 09-15-2015, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xnick101

Thanks for the information, but it's not about wanting to do this, it's asking if it will happen or not. I'm not trying to make the A/F ratio run 9's all day either. There are people with proper tunes that can shoot flames under WOT. It won't happen every time, just now and then

JARblue · 09-15-2015, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xnick101

There are people with proper tunes that can shoot flames under WOT. It won't happen every time, just now and then

In a 370Z? There are a few guys on this forum with vids of their 370Z flames. They are all forced induction, though. I challenge you to find a N/A 370Z spittin' flame yo.

xnick101 · 09-15-2015, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

In a 370Z? There are a few guys on this forum with vids of their 370Z flames. They are all forced induction, though. I challenge you to find a N/A 370Z spittin' flame yo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhM5y72uo7s

FPenvy · 09-16-2015, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

In a 370Z? There are a few guys on this forum with vids of their 370Z flames. They are all forced induction, though. I challenge you to find a N/A 370Z spittin' flame yo.

there has been one but he had some guy do a very odd tune with a lot of high rpm fuel cut/dumps and ignition timing to get it to spark up the gases.

JARblue · 09-16-2015, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by xnick101

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhM5y72uo7s

You said with a proper tune. I don't think that guy is running a proper tune.

Not to mention if your just looking to spit flames in the parking lot, that's stupid. I would not recommend high RPMs without the engine under load

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

there has been one but he had some guy do a very odd tune with a lot of high rpm fuel cut/dumps and ignition timing to get it to spark up the gases.

Ok so you have to fuk up your tune and ignition timing and do 6K+ RPM fuel dumps. That doesn't count since he said "with proper tune"

SouthArk370Z · 09-16-2015, 09:35 AM

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Ghostvette · 09-16-2015, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

there has been one but he had some guy do a very odd tune with a lot of high rpm fuel cut/dumps and ignition timing to get it to spark up the gases.

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Originally Posted by JARblue

You said with a proper tune. I don't think that guy is running a proper tune.

Not to mention if your just looking to spit flames in the parking lot, that's stupid. I would not recommend high RPMs without the engine under load

Ok so you have to fuk up your tune and ignition timing and do 6K+ RPM fuel dumps. That doesn't count since he said "with proper tune"

And the YouTube of the 1200hp GT-R in Dubai doesn't count either.

FPenvy · 09-16-2015, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette

And the YouTube of the 1200hp GT-R in Dubai doesn't count either.

that's a whole different story lol

that much fuel pumping to achieve that HP flames are inevitable when he lets off the loud pedal lol

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