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Z Ninja 08-16-2015 06:08 PM

Could criminals hack your Z and simply drive it away?
 
Quote from New York Times link below...
"In recent months, there has been a slew of mysterious car break-ins in Los Angeles. What’s odd is that there have been no signs of forced entry. There are no pools of broken glass on the pavement and no scratches on the doors from jimmied locks." :shakes head:

New York Times: Keeping Your Car Safe From Electronic Thieves

2014 Jeep Cherokee, a 2014 Infiniti Q50, or a 2015 Escalade rated most vulnerable. Researchers find 2014 models of Dodge Viper, Audi A8, Honda Accord are the least likely to be hit by hackers.

The World's Most Hackable Cars

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqYJi6DV21A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hRy0sy4P5g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTOUArz3bNU

DOOMMONKEY777 08-16-2015 11:28 PM

Yes, get lo jack.

jaedub 08-16-2015 11:53 PM

To be honest, I don't think thieves would be likely to steal a 370z because they're quite rare in my community and it'll only cause unwanted attention.

JC-Nismo 08-16-2015 11:53 PM

Wow, ours Z's are open for this kind of theft. Never leave mine out of my sight, but still and eary thought as it only takes a few seconds to do.

2011 Nismo#91 08-17-2015 07:58 AM

Yes, if you're close to your car they can just use one of these.
Thieves using a $17 device to break into cars with keyless systems

SouthArk370Z 08-17-2015 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jaedub (Post 3286687)
To be honest, I don't think thieves would be likely to steal a 370z because they're quite rare in my community and it'll only cause unwanted attention.

If they want the whole car they will just winch it onto a flatbed and take it out of state/country (or to a chop shop). If any car is on the street, it can be stolen. Locks, alarms, &c may deter a local thug but won't slow down a pro.

Akurei 08-17-2015 08:56 AM

This is not something you want to throw in open visible car specific forum. That was the problem with Honda-tech.com, people training others how to steal cars. But no biggy. If you get paranoid or if you see people trying to F with your car with remotes. All you have to do is take the battery out of your keyfob, and figure out the rest, you can start by taking the key out and opening your door

Uxi 08-17-2015 12:15 PM

Just need something like this:

Wireless RF Isolation Key Fob Security - Select Fabricators Inc

http://www.amazon.com/Keyfob-RFID-Si...dp/B00Y3FLYWG/

Security through obscurity only benefits the thieves. For all the amateurs that might want to try from sifting a forum, the defenses are far better learned. Ultimately it's all about delaying the inevitable but unless you can hire armed guards 24/7 if someone wants in they're going to get in. Most anti-theft is about detecting and/or delaying until the popo can be called or you can arm yourself...

kenchan 08-17-2015 12:39 PM

hack my Z? probably. steal my Z? probably.

would i get mad? probably.

birdman71 08-17-2015 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3286993)
hack my Z? probably. steal my Z? probably.

would i get mad? probably.

Would you have to Photoshop all your mods again? probably.

kenchan 08-17-2015 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by birdman71 (Post 3287004)
Would you have to Photoshop all your mods again? probably.

i should photoshop a few traps..

90 ST 08-17-2015 01:20 PM

Break out "THE CLUB"!! LOL

kenchan 08-17-2015 01:37 PM

i doubt anyone's going to want to steal a car with 300k miles, 90ST.. :ugh:



;)

2011 Nismo#91 08-17-2015 01:38 PM

Trunk Monkey

https://fellowshipofminds.files.word...nk20monkey.jpg

90 ST 08-17-2015 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3287051)
i doubt anyone's going to want to steal a car with 300k miles, 90ST.. :ugh:



;)

LOL, They wont know till it's too late and they have it started...then it's their problem. LOL

Akurei 08-17-2015 03:32 PM

Well, I am not gonna release any more information, but I can guarantee that pouch for the keyfob won't do squat these days

I'll pm you

P's_Z 08-18-2015 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by birdman71 (Post 3287004)
Would you have to Photoshop all your mods again? probably.

Hilarious :icon18:

Haboob 08-18-2015 09:22 AM

You're forgetting that these hackers cannot do this to any car (specifically the Jeep, since it's the only one that was remotely hacked) off of the lot.

They heavily modified the code, even went through 2-3 ECU's before they got it right, to do what they did. The hackers would have to swap ECU's in your vehicle first in order to take control, or plug directly into the OBDII port (and be inside your car with you).


The fear mongering by the media is strong with this story.


If you're talking about just flat out stealing it, then any car with keyless start is vulnerable, all the way up to Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc.

kenchan 08-18-2015 09:40 AM

haboob- please take out the logic and post. :shakes head:

Haboob 08-18-2015 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3287823)
haboob- please take out the logic and post. :shakes head:

Aw. :(

Akurei 08-18-2015 11:08 AM

You will be PM'd Haboob

Haboob 08-18-2015 11:17 AM

Granted, if someone did this to my Z I would just yell out, "Make sure you total it!" :icon17:

cigarclifford 08-18-2015 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 3287935)
Granted, if someone did this to my Z I would just yell out, "Make sure you total it!" :icon17:

:iagree: and then I would buy a Red one :tup:

-Clifford :tiphat:

Haboob 08-18-2015 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigarclifford (Post 3288032)
:iagree: and then I would buy a Red one :tup:

-Clifford :tiphat:

:)

I'd probably buy something else. Not that I don't like it, but I no longer like the payment.

need4speed255 08-18-2015 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akurei (Post 3287143)
Well, I am not gonna release any more information, but I can guarantee that pouch for the keyfob won't do squat these days

I'll pm you

Why such a secret? Out with the intel.

BamBamZ 08-19-2015 12:36 PM

Yes, I don't know about hacking but those devices posted in the first page are RF amplifiers... It picks up the signal from your key fob from up to 300 meters. Like posted in the first page too, There are little RF blocking pouches you can buy that will block this signal.

I do neighborhood watch in my little town and in 1 night a thief went on a stroll and used one of these devices to get into a New Charger, Ford F150 SVT Raptor, BMW 530IT, Buick Regal GS and another car I can't remember... Over the course of a few weeks he broke in to several other cars the same way and stole 2 cars... A 2014 Mini Pooper S and a Lexus GX460 both found a few towns over without damage. Since our cars are keyless like the 2 that were stolen it can be used to start and drive the car away.

I saw the guy the night he got into the Raptor, I know it was him because I saw him a few blocks away at 2AM holding an ipad... An Ipad was stolen from the Raptor and the location tracker cloud thingy was turned off around that same time. He stopped once I posted a description of the guy and we haven't had anything happen since (he was definitely on the neighborhoods facebook page or someone recognized him from my description and told him he's been spotted).

Haboob 08-19-2015 01:08 PM

Now, with the RF blocking pouches, you'd have to take your keys out of the pouch each time you want to get into your car, no?

Kind of defeats the purpose of keyless entry and start.



Thankfully the RF range on the Z's fob is very small, so I'd pretty much be watching them steal my car. I never take it out and press the button to lock/unlock, so that signal is never prevalent.

need4speed255 08-19-2015 05:10 PM

It may be a pain but the best would be to install an on and off switch on the key fob in order to disconnect the battery power.

Rusty 08-19-2015 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3287052)

The video. :D :rofl2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=/geynA-JYDHE

2009_370z 08-19-2015 06:08 PM

:rofl2:

Nice find. I want a monkey! My next car, I'm making sure it's in the package.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3289394)


Uxi 08-20-2015 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 3289167)
Now, with the RF blocking pouches, you'd have to take your keys out of the pouch each time you want to get into your car, no?

Kind of defeats the purpose of keyless entry and start.


Eh. Much subjective... at home, I'm in a garage so wouldn't be a concern at all. At work, it might be when I get to my desk I would put the fob from my pocket into the pouch. When I leave work, take out of pouch back in pocket then walk to car and push the smart button as normal.

If you're parked outside at home (apartment or no garage or whatever), you would repeat. If you're just popping in the store or starbucks you might not bother... But if you're paranoid, you might.


Quote:

Thankfully the RF range on the Z's fob is very small, so I'd pretty much be watching them steal my car. I never take it out and press the button to lock/unlock, so that signal is never prevalent.
This. 99% of the time I'm the button on the handle.


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