Why is the Z slower than comparable cars?

Akurei · 08-12-2015, 06:22 PM

Fastest from top to bottom "Average" quarter mile times (2015

charger SRT8 12.4 sec
challenger R/T scat pack 12.9 sec
SS 1LE 12.9 sec
5.0 13.2 sec
370Z 13.3 sec
STI 13.3 sec
EVO 13.7
Genesis 14.4

Now these are just average. With a better driver, you can get down lower. With a stock base sport Z, there has been a few who have got down to 12.8-13 seconds. However, that is just internet proof.

This is just showing you an average, not accurate result of where we stand.

There is a new evo coming out a final edition that will be pretty quick, and if I remember correctly, hyundai was planning something with the genesis. Sooner or later, the Z will be on the bottom of the list.

FairladyZ40th · 08-12-2015, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LennyK

People seem to want to compare the 370Z (Roadster) to the Porsche Boxter

Really??? 370Z vs. Boxster 4 cylinder

What do you think (know) would happen in a real test vs the Porsche??

Here's what I think man haha although there is vids where the boxster wins ... Must have a lot to do with the driver too though.

http://youtu.be/GGPpU17C5JM

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Firebase99 · 08-12-2015, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Akurei

Fastest from top to bottom "Average" quarter mile times (2015

charger SRT8 12.4 sec
challenger R/T scat pack 12.9 sec
SS 1LE 12.9 sec
5.0 13.2 sec
370Z 13.3 sec
STI 13.3 sec
EVO 13.7
Genesis 14.4

Now these are just average. With a better driver, you can get down lower. With a stock base sport Z, there has been a few who have got down to 12.8-13 seconds. However, that is just internet proof.

This is just showing you an average, not accurate result of where we stand.

There is a new evo coming out a final edition that will be pretty quick, and if I remember correctly, hyundai was planning something with the genesis. Sooner or later, the Z will be on the bottom of the list.

14.4 for a 3.8 Genesis. Stock I've seen 13.5. Yea that 14.4 is for the 2 liter not the 3.8

2009_370z · 08-12-2015, 07:28 PM

Don't forget about the CSC failure

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Originally Posted by osbornsm

Unless you count the over-heating oil, boiling brake fluid, and fuel starvation... YES, it is READY for the racetrack.

Eagle · 08-12-2015, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 2009_370z

Don't forget about the CSC failure

.

...and fuel starvation

Akurei · 08-12-2015, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

14.4 for a 3.8 Genesis. Stock I've seen 13.5. Yea that 14.4 is for the 2 liter not the 3.8

I figured that was an oddball number but I was at work and had to get numbers quickly off of websites.

Was the reason I put they are not accurate numbers but close enough for you all to judge and confirm that we are still doing ok but not the best obviously as stated before by everyone

Akurei · 08-12-2015, 09:04 PM

Not knocking on Nismos because obviously Zs are not menat for drag times completely. Here is a post by Cars and drivers

Well, for one thing, the automatic is quicker. By our measure, the 370Z NISMO automatic shot to 60 mph in 4.9 seconds and passed the quarter-mile mark in 13.6 at 106 mph, 0.3- and 0.1-second quicker than the last manual-equipped370Z NISMO*we tested. We still haven’t been able to match what appears to have been a particularly quick,*non-NISMO 370Z automaticwe tested a few years back (and not for lack of trying). Even with 332 horsepower, that car hit 60 in 4.6 seconds and powered through the quarter in 13.1 seconds at 108 mph.

Depends on the driver and your intentions of the car. I believe the less weight of the base is the reason

Firebase99 · 08-12-2015, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Akurei

Not knocking on Nismos because obviously Zs are not menat for drag times completely. Here is a post by Cars and drivers

Well, for one thing, the automatic is quicker. By our measure, the 370Z NISMO automatic shot to 60 mph in 4.9 seconds and passed the quarter-mile mark in 13.6 at 106 mph, 0.3- and 0.1-second quicker than the last manual-equipped370Z NISMO*we tested. We still haven’t been able to match what appears to have been a particularly quick,*non-NISMO 370Z automaticwe tested a few years back (and not for lack of trying). Even with 332 horsepower, that car hit 60 in 4.6 seconds and powered through the quarter in 13.1 seconds at 108 mph.

Depends on the driver and your intentions of the car. I believe the less weight of the base is the reason

I remember vividly that review. They pitted it against a $200k Aston. Shocking numbers from a stock Z in a Mag review in 2009. It was blue. Lol.

Firebase99 · 08-12-2015, 10:15 PM

Not that the 370 isn't quicker than a 3.8 Genesis. It is. Owned both. It's just not over a second quicker in the 1/4. I miss my 370. Sometimes. When the weather is great and the roads clear, miss my track days, rowing my own gears. But it was so few and far between. The current Z is quick, handles like a dream. Yea we all want more power and speed, me included. Someone a while back said in a rebuttal about more power speed etc in reference to the 86 twins that it's "not deal breaking slow". Which IMO, the Twins are. That being said to keep up with the pack a true Z car is a cheap Porsche fighter. It's gonna need mega weight savings or a mega power bump.

Spooler · 08-12-2015, 10:22 PM

I don't even count the American made cars. They don't handle worth a squat. Especially a Dodge. My car has to turn, and do it well.

Hotrodz · 08-13-2015, 01:01 AM

This thread make no sense, if you want to drag a 370z do it because that is what you want to do, but you are not going to beat muscle cars bone stock or even juiced horse power to horsepower. And for all the rest of the comparisons just look at were the Z competes in road racing at the highest level. It plays up, not down in the same classes as many of the cars mentioned that are three or four times the price or more. Hell it competes with 911s and Z28s and beats them!!!

ped · 08-13-2015, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by @NT

My WRX was definitely faster 0-60, but the Z is faster up top. Once I got the car tuned, it made a HUGE difference down low and throttle response.

Exactly - slap in a CAI, catback exhaust and UpRev tune and it drives like a different (even better) car!

ped · 08-13-2015, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Wicked Daddy

Thanks to all for the input.
As I said, the Nismo Z is my car of choice. I had a 06 G35 that I built up, only because I really wanted a Z but the dealer made me a deal on the G that the Nissan dealer couldn't beat. I finally traded it in on a QX60 for my wife and now I'm finally going to get my Z. When making comparisons, I found (as others have pointed out) that the econo-boxes (love that!) had faster launch times and that was perplexing.

WRX = 4 wheel drive
Others = front-wheel drive in most cases

ped · 08-13-2015, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

long time no post!

my Z can still get me in trouble in 5sec so i dont see the car as being too slow.

plus it's got that special something those other cars dont have. it's not just speed im after.

I don't see how anyone can call the 370Z "slow" in any event - 0-60 in 4.8 and 13.4 @ 105.6 stock. Add a CAI and catback plus a tune and you could be looking at 13 flat or high 12s.

ped · 08-13-2015, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79

It's not the car, it's the driver.

So a better drive in a Prius will beat a 370Z to 60 and the quarter mile?

08-12-2015, 06:22 PM	#61 (permalink)
Akurei Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: California Posts: 319 Drives: 14 370z Rep Power: 11	Fastest from top to bottom "Average" quarter mile times (2015 charger SRT8 12.4 sec challenger R/T scat pack 12.9 sec SS 1LE 12.9 sec 5.0 13.2 sec 370Z 13.3 sec STI 13.3 sec EVO 13.7 Genesis 14.4 Now these are just average. With a better driver, you can get down lower. With a stock base sport Z, there has been a few who have got down to 12.8-13 seconds. However, that is just internet proof. This is just showing you an average, not accurate result of where we stand. There is a new evo coming out a final edition that will be pretty quick, and if I remember correctly, hyundai was planning something with the genesis. Sooner or later, the Z will be on the bottom of the list. ped likes this.

08-13-2015, 01:01 AM	#71 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	This thread make no sense, if you want to drag a 370z do it because that is what you want to do, but you are not going to beat muscle cars bone stock or even juiced horse power to horsepower. And for all the rest of the comparisons just look at were the Z competes in road racing at the highest level. It plays up, not down in the same classes as many of the cars mentioned that are three or four times the price or more. Hell it competes with 911s and Z28s and beats them!!! __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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08-12-2015, 09:04 PM	#67 (permalink)
Akurei Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: California Posts: 319 Drives: 14 370z Rep Power: 11	Not knocking on Nismos because obviously Zs are not menat for drag times completely. Here is a post by Cars and drivers Well, for one thing, the automatic is quicker. By our measure, the 370Z NISMO automatic shot to 60 mph in 4.9 seconds and passed the quarter-mile mark in 13.6 at 106 mph, 0.3- and 0.1-second quicker than the last manual-equipped370Z NISMOwe tested. We still haven’t been able to match what appears to have been a particularly quick,non-NISMO 370Z automaticwe tested a few years back (and not for lack of trying). Even with 332 horsepower, that car hit 60 in 4.6 seconds and powered through the quarter in 13.1 seconds at 108 mph. Depends on the driver and your intentions of the car. I believe the less weight of the base is the reason

08-12-2015, 10:15 PM	#69 (permalink)
Firebase99 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: fl Posts: 1,372 Drives: 14 3.8 Gen Coupe GT Rep Power: 14034	Not that the 370 isn't quicker than a 3.8 Genesis. It is. Owned both. It's just not over a second quicker in the 1/4. I miss my 370. Sometimes. When the weather is great and the roads clear, miss my track days, rowing my own gears. But it was so few and far between. The current Z is quick, handles like a dream. Yea we all want more power and speed, me included. Someone a while back said in a rebuttal about more power speed etc in reference to the 86 twins that it's "not deal breaking slow". Which IMO, the Twins are. That being said to keep up with the pack a true Z car is a cheap Porsche fighter. It's gonna need mega weight savings or a mega power bump.

08-12-2015, 10:22 PM	#70 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,830 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	I don't even count the American made cars. They don't handle worth a squat. Especially a Dodge. My car has to turn, and do it well.