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Why is the Z slower than comparable cars?

Originally Posted by Firebase99 14.4 for a 3.8 Genesis. Stock I've seen 13.5. Yea that 14.4 is for the 2 liter not the 3.8 I figured that was an oddball

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Old 08-12-2015, 07:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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14.4 for a 3.8 Genesis. Stock I've seen 13.5. Yea that 14.4 is for the 2 liter not the 3.8
I figured that was an oddball number but I was at work and had to get numbers quickly off of websites.

Was the reason I put they are not accurate numbers but close enough for you all to judge and confirm that we are still doing ok but not the best obviously as stated before by everyone
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14.4 for a 3.8 Genesis. Stock I've seen 13.5. Yea that 14.4 is for the 2 liter not the 3.8
13.8 according to this test:

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The 3482-pound 3.8 R-Spec two-door we tested needed 5.2 seconds to hit 60 mph, 0.3 fewer than before. The quarter-mile went by in 13.8 at 104 mph
So a half second slower.
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Old 08-13-2015, 11:00 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yea, the mags say that but I personally saw faster. Neither here nor there. Its not as quick a 370 in any flavor not debating that. I just dont see the Z as "slow". Its a canyon carver with some power backing it up. Unlike BRZ/FRS.
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Yea, the mags say that but I personally saw faster. Neither here nor there. Its not as quick a 370 in any flavor not debating that. I just dont see the Z as "slow". Its a canyon carver with some power backing it up. Unlike BRZ/FRS.
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Not knocking on Nismos because obviously Zs are not menat for drag times completely. Here is a post by Cars and drivers

Well, for one thing, the automatic is quicker. By our measure, the 370Z NISMO automatic shot to 60 mph in 4.9 seconds and passed the quarter-mile mark in 13.6 at 106 mph, 0.3- and 0.1-second quicker than the last manual-equipped370Z NISMO*we tested. We still haven’t been able to match what appears to have been a particularly quick,*non-NISMO 370Z automaticwe tested a few years back (and not for lack of trying). Even with 332 horsepower, that car hit 60 in 4.6 seconds and powered through the quarter in 13.1 seconds at 108 mph.

Depends on the driver and your intentions of the car. I believe the less weight of the base is the reason
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Not knocking on Nismos because obviously Zs are not menat for drag times completely. Here is a post by Cars and drivers

Well, for one thing, the automatic is quicker. By our measure, the 370Z NISMO automatic shot to 60 mph in 4.9 seconds and passed the quarter-mile mark in 13.6 at 106 mph, 0.3- and 0.1-second quicker than the last manual-equipped370Z NISMO*we tested. We still haven’t been able to match what appears to have been a particularly quick,*non-NISMO 370Z automaticwe tested a few years back (and not for lack of trying). Even with 332 horsepower, that car hit 60 in 4.6 seconds and powered through the quarter in 13.1 seconds at 108 mph.

Depends on the driver and your intentions of the car. I believe the less weight of the base is the reason
I remember vividly that review. They pitted it against a $200k Aston. Shocking numbers from a stock Z in a Mag review in 2009. It was blue. Lol.
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Not that the 370 isn't quicker than a 3.8 Genesis. It is. Owned both. It's just not over a second quicker in the 1/4. I miss my 370. Sometimes. When the weather is great and the roads clear, miss my track days, rowing my own gears. But it was so few and far between. The current Z is quick, handles like a dream. Yea we all want more power and speed, me included. Someone a while back said in a rebuttal about more power speed etc in reference to the 86 twins that it's "not deal breaking slow". Which IMO, the Twins are. That being said to keep up with the pack a true Z car is a cheap Porsche fighter. It's gonna need mega weight savings or a mega power bump.
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I don't even count the American made cars. They don't handle worth a squat. Especially a Dodge. My car has to turn, and do it well.
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This thread make no sense, if you want to drag a 370z do it because that is what you want to do, but you are not going to beat muscle cars bone stock or even juiced horse power to horsepower. And for all the rest of the comparisons just look at were the Z competes in road racing at the highest level. It plays up, not down in the same classes as many of the cars mentioned that are three or four times the price or more. Hell it competes with 911s and Z28s and beats them!!!
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i honestly don't get how some people that aren't boosted get such low mpg's... i have a cbe, intakes, and tp's, plus a tune and i'm still averaging about 22mpg's. no, i don't drive like a grandma.

also, if you bought this car for the mpg's, you bought it for the wrong reason
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i honestly don't get how some people that aren't boosted get such low mpg's... i have a cbe, intakes, and tp's, plus a tune and i'm still averaging about 22mpg's. no, i don't drive like a grandma.

also, if you bought this car for the mpg's, you bought it for the wrong reason
City driving. I think my average MPH isn't even 20 so I'm around 18-20mpg.
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I get 16 mpg's... It is what it is. At least gas is reasonable
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My MPG averages moved up by 2 MPG in both city and highway after my breathing mods and UpRev tune.
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My MPG averages moved up by 2 MPG in both city and highway after my breathing mods and UpRev tune.

Could you post a link? If it's a purchasable upgrade online?


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Could you post a link? If it's a purchasable upgrade online?
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Some people on this forum will tune by email - they send you a base/safe tune, you drive around collecting data and send it to them, they tweak the tune and send back for you to flash and test and so on. Supposedly can get close to optimal tune, but the best way is to take it to a tuning shop that has a dyno where they do before, during and after dyno runs to tune it right.
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