Advice from those over 100k miles

plsurveying · 07-05-2020, 05:12 PM

After buying a used 240Z in 1977, my 370z is my 5th Z car. I have always had at least one since 1980. I have 141,000 miles on it and just replaced my clutch because if the CSC. I was really trying to get 200,000 out of my clutch like my 86 got. I get 90,000 on brakes, usually my rears need replacing first. I plan on keeping it for another 5 years so I have customized it the way I want. It is cheap to keep on the road. When my brother was looking for a car to buy I told him I didn't know what he wanted but I have fun going to the grocery store. If you know of a more reliable, very fun car to own, please tell me.

Z_ealot · 07-05-2020, 05:42 PM

Catching up to 90ST myself, just a little less than 700 miles away from hitting 200,000 miles and she's still going

NitroZ · 03-06-2023, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Aizen Sosuke

So the Z is at 99k and I'm having some second thoughts going forward. It's always been properly maintained and outside of a failed CSC 1000 miles ago I've had zero issues since buying it in 2010. I took the opportunity to replace clutch kit and master cylinder while I was at it. The car is bone stock and on the next oil change I will be swapping the gear oil on the differential and replacing spark plugs. Belt still looks good.

I am currently debating on keeping the car for another couple of years or selling it and buying a new 2015 ride with warranty for piece of mind. For those of you who have driven the car from 100k miles onwards please chime in and let me know what issues, if any, you have had. I'd love to keep the car if repair costs can be minimized to maintenance items only. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Z's reliability.
Thanks in advance.

There are a lot of factors on that. I have 2009 that I bought when it had 74k. I have had to replace the AC unit, only because Nissan had the wisdom to not allow the clutch only to be replaced, other no issues. Its a daily driver that now has 122k and it runs flawless and even the suspension is rock solid. I have done routine maintenance that you would other wise do anyway, brake pads, rotors, oil, better hoses and stuff. Just take care of it and keep driving it, especially if you own with no payments. You wont find a better ride unless you pay a premium price. For yes, newer, but this car was built so way ahead of its time its not even funny. There are allsorts of aftermarket parts to keep it running and legit, so keep it running and looking good and keep the money in your pocket.

NitroZ · 03-06-2023, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Aizen Sosuke

So the Z is at 99k and I'm having some second thoughts going forward. It's always been properly maintained and outside of a failed CSC 1000 miles ago I've had zero issues since buying it in 2010. I took the opportunity to replace clutch kit and master cylinder while I was at it. The car is bone stock and on the next oil change I will be swapping the gear oil on the differential and replacing spark plugs. Belt still looks good.

I am currently debating on keeping the car for another couple of years or selling it and buying a new 2015 ride with warranty for piece of mind. For those of you who have driven the car from 100k miles onwards please chime in and let me know what issues, if any, you have had. I'd love to keep the car if repair costs can be minimized to maintenance items only. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Z's reliability.
Thanks in advance.

There are a lot of factors on that. I have 2009 that I bought when it had 74k. I have had to replace the AC unit, only because Nissan had the wisdom to not allow the clutch only to be replaced, other no issues. Its a daily driver that now has 122k and it runs flawless and even the suspension is rock solid. I have done routine maintenance that you would other wise do anyway, brake pads, rotors, oil, better hoses and stuff. Just take care of it and keep driving it, especially if you own with no payments. You wont find a better ride unless you pay a premium price. For yes, newer, but this car was built so way ahead of its time its not even funny. There are all sorts of aftermarket parts to keep it running and legit, so keep it running and looking good and keep the money in your pocket. There are a lot of factors on that. I have 2009 that I bought when it had 74k. I have had to replace the AC unit, only because Nissan had the wisdom to not allow the clutch only to be replaced, other no issues. Its a daily driver that now has 122k and it runs flawless and even the suspension is rock solid. I have done routine maintenance that you would other wise do anyway, brake pads, rotors, oil, better hoses and stuff. Just take care of it and keep driving it, especially if you own with no payments. You wont find a better ride unless you pay a premium price. For yes, newer, but this car was built so way ahead of its time its not even funny.

vtec to vvel · 03-06-2023, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NitroZ

There are a lot of factors on that. I have 2009 that I bought when it had 74k. I have had to replace the AC unit, only because Nissan had the wisdom to not allow the clutch only to be replaced, other no issues. Its a daily driver that now has 122k and it runs flawless and even the suspension is rock solid. I have done routine maintenance that you would other wise do anyway, brake pads, rotors, oil, better hoses and stuff. Just take care of it and keep driving it, especially if you own with no payments. You wont find a better ride unless you pay a premium price. For yes, newer, but this car was built so way ahead of its time its not even funny. There are allsorts of aftermarket parts to keep it running and legit, so keep it running and looking good and keep the money in your pocket.

Legend has it that OP is still debating his options.

On a side note, now is a really bad time to buy and/or to get into unnecessary debt. Interest rates have gone up so borrowing will be alot more expensive and you would qualify for less of a loan (provided you qualify at all). Prices have gone up due to inflation AND due to global supply issues and shortages of supplies and parts needed to build (i.e. semiconductors). High rates + high prices = does not make any sense to make big purchases** in this current economic environment.

**The ONLY exception to this is if you are buying a home, in which case you are investing into something that will appreciate in value (esp. due to shortage in supply), rather than a car which will depreciate.

EZT · 03-08-2023, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

Legend has it that OP is still debating his options.

On a side note, now is a really bad time to buy and/or to get into unnecessary debt. Interest rates have gone up so borrowing will be alot more expensive and you would qualify for less of a loan (provided you qualify at all). Prices have gone up due to inflation AND due to global supply issues and shortages of supplies and parts needed to build (i.e. semiconductors). High rates + high prices = does not make any sense to make big purchases** in this current economic environment.

**The ONLY exception to this is if you are buying a home, in which case you are investing into something that will appreciate in value (esp. due to shortage in supply), rather than a car which will depreciate.

This first sentence had me.

axmea? · 03-10-2023, 01:31 AM

LOL

Tractionless · 03-10-2023, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

**The ONLY exception to this is if you are buying a home, in which case you are investing into something that will appreciate in value (esp. due to shortage in supply).

Bought our house for $140k, currently "worth" $511k, you really think that's going to appreciate? NEVER buy high, all consumables and real estate are currently high.

vtec to vvel · 03-10-2023, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tractionless

Bought our house for $140k, currently "worth" $511k, you really think that's going to appreciate? NEVER buy high, all consumables and real estate are currently high.

Given that just in the US alone, we are about 15 years behind in terms of underbuilding, yes, home prices are expected to continue to rise. There's simply not enough home supply to support the demand. COVID really helped home values to go up when the Feds slashed rates.

After the late 2000 housing crash, a lot of new home builders went out of business, and for the builders that were fortunate enough to stick around, they built cautiously and rightfully so. Around the housing crash came the Great Recession so people were scared to buy and banks were scared to lend, so home builders severely underbuilt new homes to ensure their financial stability (why build when it costs money to produce and no one is really buying and with the housing market crash, no one was really looking to buy).

Within these 15 years, households have grown significantly, but no where near the amount of homes available to support this growth. Simple supply/demand, you now have more buyers (even with raised rates) than actual homes available for sale. You have more competition now in terms of home buyers than before, esp. with COVID:

1. Existing home owners who want to upgrade (first-time home buyers cannot compete with this group simply because of the lack of equity)
2. Millenials and Generation Z have reached the age of first-time home buyers.
3. COVID: many companies offered remote work and many have flocked to FL (for political asylum, no state income tax, weather, etc.).

So yes, home values will continue to rise, maybe not as fast as during COVID, but unless the housing market crises somehow fixes itself fast with more supply, values will not decrease. You said it yourself that you went from $140K to $511K - this is a HUGE increase.

With your logic of not buying high, if you wait until rates go back down, you will be going through exactly what we just went through: HIGH competition, much more inflated home values, bidding wars, much more out of pocket costs to entice the sellers to accept your offer, etc.

If you buy high, the rates can always be refinanced when they drop, and you won't go through the bidding war nonsense. Renting rates are just as high, if not higher than mortgages, so which makes more sense:

1. Rent high with no equity building and pay 100% interest

OR

2. Buy high and build equity with the option to refinance rates when they drop

vtec to vvel · 04-02-2023, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

Legend has it that OP is still debating his options.

On a side note, now is a really bad time to buy and/or to get into unnecessary debt. Interest rates have gone up so borrowing will be alot more expensive and you would qualify for less of a loan (provided you qualify at all). Prices have gone up due to inflation AND due to global supply issues and shortages of supplies and parts needed to build (i.e. semiconductors). High rates + high prices = does not make any sense to make big purchases** in this current economic environment.

**The ONLY exception to this is if you are buying a home, in which case you are investing into something that will appreciate in value (esp. due to shortage in supply), rather than a car which will depreciate.

As I mentioned previously, now is a bad time to buy a car and getting into unnecessary debt.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/02/cars/...s-inflation-dg

"This is one of the worst times to buy a car in decades. "

I have also said take the media with a grain of salt. What this article fails to address is the rise in rates. With current rates, qualifying for an auto loan will be harder and there is a very good chance that people will be qualified for a lesser amount than when rates were lower.

tonythetiger · 04-19-2023, 10:26 PM

im at 126K miles, honestly havnt been driving too much since my 5th gear synchros grinds, im currently replacing the transmission with a brand new one that cost roughly $2K. Im noticing the valve cover on both sides has small oil leak, i guess its common since they are made out of plastic. also noticing my hangers to my exhaust seemed to have disappeared so this might all be due to excessive track days.

NitroZ · 06-19-2023, 10:45 PM

Of course the dealship dude will say SELL. All cars lose value over time so from that angle it makes finacial sense. But, buy what ? Another Z that follows the same downward spiral ? If the car has high mileage , you may not owe much more. The 370z was and is far ahead of its time and it a great car and aftermarket upgrades are abundant. Keep it, enjoy it and embrace one of the best ever cars in its time. Many car mags say its showing signs of age. Well , so is a 67 Camaro but people don't bail on those and they are not even in the league on the 370z.

07-05-2020, 05:12 PM	#46 (permalink)
plsurveying Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 6 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	After buying a used 240Z in 1977, my 370z is my 5th Z car. I have always had at least one since 1980. I have 141,000 miles on it and just replaced my clutch because if the CSC. I was really trying to get 200,000 out of my clutch like my 86 got. I get 90,000 on brakes, usually my rears need replacing first. I plan on keeping it for another 5 years so I have customized it the way I want. It is cheap to keep on the road. When my brother was looking for a car to buy I told him I didn't know what he wanted but I have fun going to the grocery store. If you know of a more reliable, very fun car to own, please tell me. ZontheRocks likes this.

07-05-2020, 05:42 PM	#47 (permalink)
Z_ealot A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 2,045 Drives: 09 370Z Touring/Sprt Rep Power: 10091	Catching up to 90ST myself, just a little less than 700 miles away from hitting 200,000 miles and she's still going NecioVato, JARblue, Smashley and 2 others like this.

03-10-2023, 01:31 AM	#52 (permalink)
axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,235 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53241	Back from the grave LOL EZT and sx moneypit like this. __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete

04-19-2023, 10:26 PM	#56 (permalink)
tonythetiger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: SA, TX Posts: 1,035 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z PG MT Rep Power: 193	im at 126K miles, honestly havnt been driving too much since my 5th gear synchros grinds, im currently replacing the transmission with a brand new one that cost roughly $2K. Im noticing the valve cover on both sides has small oil leak, i guess its common since they are made out of plastic. also noticing my hangers to my exhaust seemed to have disappeared so this might all be due to excessive track days. __________________ KWV3/Eibach/StillenG3/FI CBE+LTH+34Row/Uprev/SPL/SouthBendSS/QuaifeLSD/4.08/TommyKaira/Status/VolkZE40/AP Radical BBK/Seibon/Amuse/VIS/Sparco/WorksBellGTC/RJM/Nismo

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NitroZ Base Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Reno, Nv Posts: 18 Drives: 2009 370Z Touring Rep Power: 9	Of course the dealship dude will say SELL. All cars lose value over time so from that angle it makes finacial sense. But, buy what ? Another Z that follows the same downward spiral ? If the car has high mileage , you may not owe much more. The 370z was and is far ahead of its time and it a great car and aftermarket upgrades are abundant. Keep it, enjoy it and embrace one of the best ever cars in its time. Many car mags say its showing signs of age. Well , so is a 67 Camaro but people don't bail on those and they are not even in the league on the 370z.