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Originally Posted by kenchan irony is u guys have like 2 oil refineries close by and yet you pay insane prices for wat, only 91 octane? The problem is that

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Old 07-21-2015, 05:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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irony is u guys have like 2 oil refineries close by and yet you pay insane prices for wat, only 91 octane?
The problem is that everyone here has a Lexus or BMW so we can't get over 91, where in other states the majority of usage is 87, which leave enough octane to get over 91.

Not sure if that makes sense, but I can explain a different way if needed
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The problem is that everyone here has a Lexus or BMW so we can't get over 91, where in other states the majority of usage is 87, which leave enough octane to get over 91.

Not sure if that makes sense, but I can explain a different way if needed
you mean like STFU kenchan ?

actually the gas stations get the same fuel dont they? then they mix watever as the customer pays?
im in the midwest so i get more corn..
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you mean like STFU kenchan ?

actually the gas stations get the same fuel dont they? then they mix watever as the customer pays?
im in the midwest so i get more corn..
Lol, no, not what I mean.


So. This is how the breakdown happens. (Will not be accurate math)


The refinery needs to produce 10,000,000 gallons of gas in varying octane. The total octane of the gas is let's say 890,000,000...

They can either make it all 89 octane, or some 87, some 89, some 91, and some 93, but for every gallon of 93, they need to make 2 gallons of 87.

This works ok outside CA because every other car is a pickup that will run just fine on 85 octane, but in CA there are so many damn BMWs, Lexuses, and Mercs that we choose to produce so much high octane gas that we cannot make higher than 91 because there just isn't enough octane to go around at the end of the day.
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Lol, no, not what I mean.


So. This is how the breakdown happens. (Will not be accurate math)


The refinery needs to produce 10,000,000 gallons of gas in varying octane. The total octane of the gas is let's say 890,000,000...

They can either make it all 89 octane, or some 87, some 89, some 91, and some 93, but for every gallon of 93, they need to make 2 gallons of 87.

This works ok outside CA because every other car is a pickup that will run just fine on 85 octane, but in CA there are so many damn BMWs, Lexuses, and Mercs that we choose to produce so much high octane gas that we cannot make higher than 91 because there just isn't enough octane to go around at the end of the day.
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Lol, no, not what I mean.


So. This is how the breakdown happens. (Will not be accurate math)


The refinery needs to produce 10,000,000 gallons of gas in varying octane. The total octane of the gas is let's say 890,000,000...

They can either make it all 89 octane, or some 87, some 89, some 91, and some 93, but for every gallon of 93, they need to make 2 gallons of 87.

This works ok outside CA because every other car is a pickup that will run just fine on 85 octane, but in CA there are so many damn BMWs, Lexuses, and Mercs that we choose to produce so much high octane gas that we cannot make higher than 91 because there just isn't enough octane to go around at the end of the day.
huh, all this time i thought refineries made bascially the 87 or 89 and just mixed watever to make the 93 and such at the gas stations. interesting indeed, thanks!
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huh, all this time i thought refineries made bascially the 87 or 89 and just mixed watever to make the 93 and such at the gas stations. interesting indeed, thanks!
Maybe I explained it a bit too simple, and you're kinda correct.

The refinery makes the highest and the lowest, the pump mixes usually.


The thing is that (in my example) the demand for 87 has to be twice as high as it is for 93.

I can tell you that in CA, 91 and 87 sell almost 1 to 1. I'll take a pic next time I fill up (next week)
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Lol, no, not what I mean.


So. This is how the breakdown happens. (Will not be accurate math)


The refinery needs to produce 10,000,000 gallons of gas in varying octane. The total octane of the gas is let's say 890,000,000...

They can either make it all 89 octane, or some 87, some 89, some 91, and some 93, but for every gallon of 93, they need to make 2 gallons of 87.

This works ok outside CA because every other car is a pickup that will run just fine on 85 octane, but in CA there are so many damn BMWs, Lexuses, and Mercs that we choose to produce so much high octane gas that we cannot make higher than 91 because there just isn't enough octane to go around at the end of the day.
Well that has one question that I've always wondered when I fill up, and now it has been answered haha
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What's cash lol? Oh that green paper stuff haha, Try not to use that as often as I can lol



Well that has one question that I've always wondered when I fill up, and now it has been answered haha
You's welcome

I tell you that once I didn't use cash for 6+ months and the first time I went to use it I asked "hey, do you guys take ca-" then I realized what I was asking... Lol


Next time you go to the pump, look for the ticker on the pump. It tells you how much has been dispensed (not in gallons if my memory is correct) since you're in CA, you'll see close to 1:1 from 87 to 91.
In Texas it was like 3:1
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