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Holliday 10-30-2009 12:10 AM

I agree with Sardis. The Z4 and the 370Z are not even in the same arena. They are completely different. In the nissan/infinity worth the only thing close to compare with the Z4 would be the G35/G37 IMO.

Even then, the G wins! I just got rid of my G35 to get a 370Z for that more nitty gritty sports car.Test driving and price comparison would seal the deal for most though. If you are married, the wife might lean more towards the Z4 cause it is "CUTE" HAHAHAH!
:rofl2:

Holliday 11-05-2009 03:32 PM

My co-worker bought a brand new 3 series here in Germany and he does not have the 4 year warranty plan like they get in the states. He also did not pay as much as people do in the states either. Like I said before, you pay for it one way or another! :icon18:

ianthegreat 11-05-2009 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sardis (Post 258136)
Have a buddy who has a 335, before that a 328

Not sure why people would spread false information about the free maintenance. Only thing you take care of is the tires, period.

These Z versus BMW threads should really be Infiniti VS BMW threads as they are more closely matched.

I really fail to see how you can drive both, rather it be a 1,3,Z and a Z34 and not understand the differences.

Really a simple test drive should illuminate the luxuries and refinement of the BMW versus the focused and raw nature of the Z.

That's true. I'm at 30k and haven't paid a dime for my 335i. They even take care of interior cosmetic issues for you. I scraped the crap out of my interior trim by the door and it was replaced as "defective, should not have scraped."

And the modding bs here is crap also. If you modify your 370, you can bet Nissan will not warranty the car either.

nicknick 11-05-2009 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ianthegreat (Post 268605)
That's true. I'm at 30k and haven't paid a dime for my 335i. They even take care of interior cosmetic issues for you. I scraped the crap out of my interior trim by the door and it was replaced as "defective, should not have scraped."

And the modding bs here is crap also. If you modify your 370, you can bet Nissan will not warranty the car either.

Ian are you saying that you can mod your bmw and bmw will still honour your warranty? I find that bad business practices.

Also I find it puzzling that BMW will replace a part that was/may be, clearly wear and tear and possibly carelessness by the owner. If that is so then good on BMW and I guess the extra money you pay for the BM goes into "claims" like these.

Mike 11-06-2009 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ianthegreat (Post 268605)

And the modding bs here is crap also. If you modify your 370, you can bet Nissan will not warranty the car either.

If you are referring to what I had posted about not being into modding on the bmw vs modding a Z, what I meant was that either way with modding, you won't have a warranty, but with the bmw you will be giving up services you don't even get with the Z.

Supergoji 11-06-2009 10:42 AM

i have driven both. get the Z4 sdrive35i with the 7 speed dual clutch.
the engine note is great, it's a bmw so fit an finish will be nicer than the Z.

plus with the ecu upgrade it'll be making big hp numbers easy.

it's a much nicer car than the Z.

veejayy 11-07-2009 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Steven (Post 253917)
370Zed = raw

Zed4 = refined

In retrospect, I should have gotten something a little more refined. dont get me wrong, i love my Z.. but if i could do it all over again, i would have bought a G37.

No- you did right- I own g37s but the Z is isn't as heavy and corners much better.

Onto the BMW comparison- get the Z or get a Porsche. I am a fan of BMW sedans but nothing else. Price out used Cayman's and then make the choice but the bloated Bimmer is not as rewarding as the Z. Now the Cayman-well a much different matter! Good luck- if you get "stuck" with the Z you will be drving one of the best cars on the road that, IMHO, "suffers" only when comparing it to P-cars. Goodluck

chief_Roka 11-11-2009 09:58 AM

The Z hands down. Reason being,
1) Even if the bimmer were to exceed in performance it would be marginal.
2) I would have 13k for mods.
3) refined engines bore me, I like screams, grunts and jerks in my ride.
4) I want a car that's on the road, not in the shop. What good is a sports car if the mechanic shop has possession of your car more than u can drive it?
5) BMW though is a great performing car when its running but its way overrated. Just cuz yuppies prefer it doesn't doesn't make it the holy grail of cars. The way the car is reviewed vs my experiences driving BMW, I feel that reviewers hype it to a level of near unrealism while nissans up until 2008, reviews have been wayyyy underrated. I rather drive the underdog car.

ianthegreat 11-11-2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 268934)
If you are referring to what I had posted about not being into modding on the bmw vs modding a Z, what I meant was that either way with modding, you won't have a warranty, but with the bmw you will be giving up services you don't even get with the Z.

My bad! I thought you were saying Nissan would still warranty you while modding.

I understand what you mean. ;)

ianthegreat 11-11-2009 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 268763)
Ian are you saying that you can mod your bmw and bmw will still honour your warranty? I find that bad business practices.

Also I find it puzzling that BMW will replace a part that was/may be, clearly wear and tear and possibly carelessness by the owner. If that is so then good on BMW and I guess the extra money you pay for the BM goes into "claims" like these.

Definitely not. If I mod my car I lose my warranty. Everyone pays to play.

Definitely a wear & tear item w/ a little negligence on my part. No, the extra 15k goes into replacing my defective door trim. Sheesh. :tup:

Holliday 11-11-2009 11:29 AM

THE Z WINS!
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370Zsteve 11-11-2009 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holliday (Post 275987)
THE Z WINS!
:icon18:

:worship:

mcheddadi 11-11-2009 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z_Fan (Post 256449)
How can you compare:
http://www.the370z.com/members/370z_...-2010bmwz4.jpg
with this:
http://www.the370z.com/members/370z_...1446-large.jpg
The hood on the Z4 is too long, just does not look proportional to the rest of the car. The Z wins hands down!

but of course! how can anyone get a car with a long hood!?? such an obvious flaw....:gtfo2:

dcs2k 01-05-2010 01:49 AM

thanks guys for all the valuable feedbacks that were left here. Well I got the Z4 over the 370Z. As some had rightfully pointed out, its not an apple to apple comparision, even though Top Gear and Best Motoring videos will want to have you believe.

Reasons why I chose the z4 over 370z as below, and my reasons might differ greatly from yours.

1.Price difference was not a consideration.
2.Need a more refined car as a daily drive.
3.Dual Clutch option on the Z4
4.Wanted a convert, the roadster version was on a indent basis and I didnt want to wait
5.I honestly have a slight preference for the z4 body style over the 370z.

What made me consider long and hard
1.Known HPFP issue with the z4 twin turbo engine. Got the dealer to commit 3 yr full warranty on parts and labour before I can have the peace of mind to get the z4.
2.I will not have as much fun driving the z4 compared to the 370z, and thats a fact.

schrute 01-05-2010 02:06 AM

^Congrats on the bimmer. Post some pics!

dcs2k 01-05-2010 03:15 AM

thanks! the 1st pic is when i collected the car and 2nd after I changed the rims

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...7/DSC00106.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...7/PC043492.jpg

schrute 01-05-2010 03:32 AM

Nice color, has a lot of character.

Great choice on the new rims - huge improvement!

What's next?

ZYUL8R 01-05-2010 04:08 AM

I think you made a good choice! You had excellent reasons. I also perfer the looks of the Z4 vert over the 370z vert. As to the comment about the long hoods...I laughed at that!...it reminds me of the long hoods on the old first generation Z cars. The Z4 has a good engine and you can make some great power with a ECU tune. I really hope you enjoy your new car!! Congrats!

Chan Chee Hoe 01-05-2010 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcs2k (Post 354465)
thanks! the 1st pic is when i collected the car and 2nd after I changed the rims

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...7/DSC00106.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...7/PC043492.jpg

Hey,He is a Singaporean.!Your car costs over S$220,000.00,of course will be a better car.....

dcs2k 01-05-2010 05:12 AM

thanks guys for the kind comments! One more impt reason I chose the z4, like what many of you mentioned, a ECU upgrade costing $500 was able to give me a 100hp gain.
Stock comes 306hp and 400nm torque. one chip, with an intake and intercooler is giving me 425hp and 500nm+ torque now.

Besides the power upgrade, I did up the sound system, which was crap to begin with. My one regret though is not getting a car with iDrive, the LCD in car system.

Chan Chee Hoe 01-05-2010 05:28 AM

The photos are taken somewhere in Macpherson area.?Anyway,our speedlimits just 90 km/h,your standard car will be fast enough.!

dcs2k 01-05-2010 06:18 AM

hey there nice to see a fellow singaporean here! photo was taken outside my place along thomson road :D

Mike 01-05-2010 11:22 AM

congrats! Can't wait to get my wife's next fall

shabarivas 01-05-2010 12:18 PM

Wow - that Z4 really does look a 100x better than the vert 370 lol

Horseface 01-05-2010 12:41 PM

Real pretty. I had the same dilemma as you choosing between the new Z4 and the 370. The 370 won, in my case.

This new Z4 is SOOOOOOOOOO much better looking than the previous Bangley monstrosity.

FuszNissan 01-05-2010 01:05 PM

No doubt it's a very nice car! Great wheels and color choice! Congrats.

Chan Chee Hoe 01-05-2010 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcs2k (Post 354489)
hey there nice to see a fellow singaporean here! photo was taken outside my place along thomson road :D

I stayed at Siglap,got pass by,call my mobile 97310979...

nicknick 01-05-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 354694)
Wow - that Z4 really does look a 100x better than the vert 370 lol


100 times better? The Z4 is nice but I prefer the 370 convertible, when both roofs are down. When up I don't know as i have not seen the ZED with cloth top up. Personally i also prefer the folding hard top over a cloth top, and that is also why i got the MX5 folding hart top as oppossed to the 350 vert.

shabarivas 01-05-2010 06:28 PM

are you joking me? the 370 vert just looks like someone slashed off the roof and said... oops - now find a way to fold that thing back in... the BMW looks like it was MADE to be a convertible ...

theDreamer 01-05-2010 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 354994)
are you joking me? the 370 vert just looks like someone slashed off the roof and said... oops - now find a way to fold that thing back in... the BMW looks like it was MADE to be a convertible ...

That is because it was, it has always been a roadster and meant to look good with the top up or down. The 370z has been stated it was "designed" with a roadster in mind, but you can clearly tell the coupe was priority and the roadster was secondary.

shabarivas 01-05-2010 07:03 PM

Yea thats what im saying... I think it makes enough of a difference. Personally I hate soft tops - the Z4 has the best of both worlds other than the whole price thing

370Z_Fan 01-05-2010 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 355002)
That is because it was, it has always been a roadster and meant to look good with the top up or down. The 370z has been stated it was "designed" with a roadster in mind, but you can clearly tell the coupe was priority and the roadster was secondary.

Actually both the coupe and roadster were designed at the same time. The designer said so himself that the 370Z was designed as a roadster right from the outset.

dalparadise 01-09-2010 03:10 AM

Sorry if this turns into a hijack, but I'll try to keep it somewhat on point...

I considered both the Z4 and the 370Z Roadster. In photos, the Bimmer looks much better than it does in person. The opposite is true of the 370ZR.

Both are curvy, extruded designs, but the 370 is just so outrageous and mean looking, its proportions are betrayed by two-dimensional images. The BMW's comparatively more conservative lines are amplified in photography.

It's hard to explain. You really have to see each. Otherwise, performance is fairly close. The 370 wins the price battle. The BMW is more refined. At that point, you vote with your heart, like I did.

I've wanted a Z car since high school, when a 280ZX caught my eye for the first time. I grew up in a small town nowhere near a Datsun dealer, and had never really seen a 240 or 260 before. The TV spots calling the 280ZX "Awwwwesome" were what got me initially.

By the time I got out on my own, I couldn't afford a 300ZX. Then, they went away. The first couple of years of the 350Z, my timing was off. I went for a couple of BMWs during that time, as I liked their styling better. When the 350Z Roadster came out, I hated it and opted for a 330Cic instead. Then, I decided I hated that heavy, 4-seat cruiser and got rid of it.

Then, my industry started to tank and I had to drive Hondas for a couple of years to compensate.

So, finally, the stars were in line. There was a new model of Z out that was beautiful -- more beautiful than anything from BMW, in my opinion. I could afford it. I needed a new car. And did I mention I had secretly wanted a Z car for the past 23 years?

Rock on.

armensti 01-09-2010 03:58 AM

get the z then save your money for a supercharger ;)

thats what i would do lol

MightyBobo 01-09-2010 05:47 AM

Grats on the Z4 - the new ones look f-ing amazing.

370Zsteve 07-06-2010 04:48 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gm1TB3t0N4&feature=player_embedded

Holliday 07-06-2010 05:01 PM

:icon18::icon18::icon18::icon18::icon18::icon18:

HELL YA! Take that BMW!

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