Has anyone noticed this?

Red370 · 10-25-2009, 12:26 PM

Gentlemen, I didnt start this thread to begin a flame war, It was an observation and I was curious to know if anyone had seen the same things.

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Originally Posted by JoeD

Really? You do know that a Camaro SS will crap all over you in any contest of speed, right? Just making sure, in case you forgot the smiley after the sentence to denote sarcasm. LOL, oh yeah...they'll beat you a road-course, too.

Surely you're joking... You DO realize the SS's curb weight is 3800 lbs right? Sounds like youre doing some magazine racing yourself. So far i've seen one get beat by a stock turbo Cobalt SS, and a slightly modded SRT-4 at the track. All that power is fine, but when you're smoking your tires through 3rd, you're not going to win races. And on a road course? your on crack bro. And I never eluded to my car being faster by saying "I guess he knows whats up", the fact is, the Z is more refined, far better looking, and with even drivers, can keep up.

m4a1mustang · 10-25-2009, 12:34 PM

All of this hypothetical crap is annoying. People are quick to dismiss the capabilities of Mustangs and Camaros around a road track... they're too heavy, they're old tech, they won't handle...

Yes, they are heavy. Yes, they are (or were) old tech. But have you ever seen one driven in anger? They may not have the technological advantages but they aren't to be taken lightly.

And the drag racing stuff is BS, too. Driver competence is half the battle. There are plenty of guys here that couldn't even muster a 14 second pass at sea level in a 6MT if their lives depended on it. And somewhere, some kid in a Scion tC that saw a 370 pass at 14.7 is talking about how his bro with an I/E tC can keep up with any 370 because they barely break into the 14s yo!

Red370 · 10-25-2009, 12:37 PM

keep in mind gentlemen that this isnt a Camaro vs. Mustang vs. 370Z thread, it was made out of curiosity to see if people were seeing an insane amount of Camaros on the roads nowadays, much like the Mustang.

m4a1mustang · 10-25-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

keep in mind gentlemen that this isnt a Camaro vs. Mustang vs. 370Z thread, it was made out of curiosity to see if people were seeing an insane amount of Camaros on the roads nowadays, much like the Mustang.

You should know by now that we are unable to keep a thread on track for more than 3, 4 posts tops.

Red370 · 10-25-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

You should know by now that we are unable to keep a thread on track for more than 3, 4 posts tops.

Yeah, 500 posts later, im finally starting to figure this out

theDreamer · 10-25-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

All of this hypothetical crap is annoying. People are quick to dismiss the capabilities of Mustangs and Camaros around a road track... they're too heavy, they're old tech, they won't handle...

Yes, they are heavy. Yes, they are (or were) old tech. But have you ever seen one driven in anger? They may not have the technological advantages but they aren't to be taken lightly.

And the drag racing stuff is BS, too. Driver competence is half the battle. There are plenty of guys here that couldn't even muster a 14 second pass at sea level in a 6MT if their lives depended on it. And somewhere, some kid in a Scion tC that saw a 370 pass at 14.7 is talking about how his bro with an I/E tC can keep up with any 370 because they barely break into the 14s yo!

There are also way more variables than just driver variables, one reason I hate comparing person X v. person Y in different locations. Just because someone ran a 14 does not mean he is slow or does not know how to drive.

Also, mustangs are very capable track cars stock and have a nice upgrade from factory to push them even better.

Jack370Z · 10-25-2009, 03:26 PM

Come on guys...don't let your testerone get in the way. You're driving a "Z". The Camaro is pretty but like a mobile home - different paint scheme on the outside and a fancy interior - they are still just a Chevy. If they should challenge you just nod, look the other way and KNOW you're driving a Z. It's like a 4th Deg Black Belt facing a street punk. You can just look away knowing that "you're driving a 370Z". I'm a 3rd time Z owner and BTW I'm one of those Boomers living the memory but in a Z it's real. Not just looking over the long hood of a Chevy. I was going up the mountain recently and a Boxer almost ran off the road checking out my Platinum Graphite Z...it was a hoot.

JoeD · 10-25-2009, 04:51 PM

I challenge someone to provide any evidence of a Z being faster than a Camaro SS on a road-course. I have not yet had both the Z and a Camaro SS on a track so I can not speak from personal experience, and neither can any of you. Show me some conclusive evidence of the Z out-performing cars on a track. Until then...the Motor Trend comparison stands, with the SS beating the NISMO around Laguna Seca by a second.

Oh yeah...this is just nonsensical magazine-racing. Let's just pretend the Z is faster because you say so.

JoeD · 10-25-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

"a sports car it is not", as you say. So why say i the same breath that it will beat a 370Z on a road course? Makes no sense.

Huh? How doesn't it make sense..there are many non sports-cars that will beat sports-cars around a track. I fail to see how you can't make that connection.

Outright performance has nothing to do with a car's classification as a "sports-car". The Camaro is not a sports-car. The Z is.

frost · 10-25-2009, 05:10 PM

Blah blah blah, the point of the thread was that the camaros are everywhere now. If you want to bench race between the two, there are at least 3 other threads on the topic.

BobDigi5060 · 10-25-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

keep in mind gentlemen that this isnt a Camaro vs. Mustang vs. 370Z thread, it was made out of curiosity to see if people were seeing an insane amount of Camaros on the roads nowadays, much like the Mustang.

I don't know why it would come as a surprise to you production numbers for Zs have always been lower than that of Mustangs and Camaros. BTW the Camaro has outsold the Mustang for the last three months.

As mentioned above the only true comparison between the two on a road course was with the Camaro beating the Nismo. Until someone else can give us some times on a road course between the two leave the track talk at that.

Respect the car for what it is. Behind any fancy paint job or interior there is just a Nissan, Chevy or freakin car underneath it all. All that black belt and street punk talk is nonsense.. LOL get over yourself brah.

BobDigi5060 · 10-25-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt

I'm 0 for 2 from muscle cars. 1 Camaro guy and 1 old guy in a vette(is a vette a muscle car???)...neither waved or nodded back to my hello.

I'm 2 for 2 from sports cars. 350Z and WRX STI both gestured back. The WRX couldn't stop staring!

Should come as no surprise that half the strangers you gesture to on the road are going to pay you no mind

370Zsteve · 10-25-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

All of this hypothetical crap is annoying. People are quick to dismiss the capabilities of Mustangs and Camaros around a road track... they're too heavy, they're old tech, they won't handle...

Yes, they are heavy. Yes, they are (or were) old tech. But have you ever seen one driven in anger? They may not have the technological advantages but they aren't to be taken lightly.

And the drag racing stuff is BS, too. Driver competence is half the battle. There are plenty of guys here that couldn't even muster a 14 second pass at sea level in a 6MT if their lives depended on it. And somewhere, some kid in a Scion tC that saw a 370 pass at 14.7 is talking about how his bro with an I/E tC can keep up with any 370 because they barely break into the 14s yo!

+1

370Zsteve · 10-25-2009, 05:23 PM

Back to TOPIC

I'm seeing Camaros everywhere. But not one SS

Trips · 10-25-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

+1

10-25-2009, 12:34 PM	#17 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	All of this hypothetical crap is annoying. People are quick to dismiss the capabilities of Mustangs and Camaros around a road track... they're too heavy, they're old tech, they won't handle... Yes, they are heavy. Yes, they are (or were) old tech. But have you ever seen one driven in anger? They may not have the technological advantages but they aren't to be taken lightly. And the drag racing stuff is BS, too. Driver competence is half the battle. There are plenty of guys here that couldn't even muster a 14 second pass at sea level in a 6MT if their lives depended on it. And somewhere, some kid in a Scion tC that saw a 370 pass at 14.7 is talking about how his bro with an I/E tC can keep up with any 370 because they barely break into the 14s yo! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	keep in mind gentlemen that this isnt a Camaro vs. Mustang vs. 370Z thread, it was made out of curiosity to see if people were seeing an insane amount of Camaros on the roads nowadays, much like the Mustang. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

10-25-2009, 03:26 PM	#22 (permalink)
Jack370Z Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 128 Drives: 09 370Z Plat SP 6MT Rep Power: 16	Camaro vs 370Z? Come on guys...don't let your testerone get in the way. You're driving a "Z". The Camaro is pretty but like a mobile home - different paint scheme on the outside and a fancy interior - they are still just a Chevy. If they should challenge you just nod, look the other way and KNOW you're driving a Z. It's like a 4th Deg Black Belt facing a street punk. You can just look away knowing that "you're driving a 370Z". I'm a 3rd time Z owner and BTW I'm one of those Boomers living the memory but in a Z it's real. Not just looking over the long hood of a Chevy. I was going up the mountain recently and a Boxer almost ran off the road checking out my Platinum Graphite Z...it was a hoot.

10-25-2009, 05:23 PM	#29 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 43	Back to TOPIC I'm seeing Camaros everywhere. But not one SS __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

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10-25-2009, 04:51 PM	#23 (permalink)
JoeD Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: CA Posts: 495 Drives: Z Rep Power: 0	I challenge someone to provide any evidence of a Z being faster than a Camaro SS on a road-course. I have not yet had both the Z and a Camaro SS on a track so I can not speak from personal experience, and neither can any of you. Show me some conclusive evidence of the Z out-performing cars on a track. Until then...the Motor Trend comparison stands, with the SS beating the NISMO around Laguna Seca by a second. Oh yeah...this is just nonsensical magazine-racing. Let's just pretend the Z is faster because you say so.

10-25-2009, 05:10 PM	#25 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	Blah blah blah, the point of the thread was that the camaros are everywhere now. If you want to bench race between the two, there are at least 3 other threads on the topic.