Has anyone noticed this?

Red370 · 10-25-2009, 03:09 AM

Camaros are starting to be the new Mustangs? These things are turning up EVERYWHERE now, makes me glad I didnt go with the Camaro and got the Z instead, I've seen maybe 3 in the city since i've had mine, i've already seen 15 Camaros today. Funny thing though, not one attempted to rev on me, shocking really. Guess they know whats up.

dalparadise · 10-25-2009, 05:38 AM

What's up is that a Camaro SS will spank a Z handily in acceleration.

The melt-your-tires-at-every-stoplight crowd has their icon back. The Z was never meant to roll with them. We should be glad they're not acting like jerks, at least not where you are, it seems.

JoeD · 10-25-2009, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

Guess they know whats up.

Really? You do know that a Camaro SS will crap all over you in any contest of speed, right? Just making sure, in case you forgot the smiley after the sentence to denote sarcasm. LOL, oh yeah...they'll beat you a road-course, too.

Still, not a huge fan of the Camaro. It's a good car all around at a great value, but a sports-car it is not. And, yes...they are more common than the Z, but that's partially due to the wider range in price from base V6 to fully-loaded SS.

Matt · 10-25-2009, 07:09 AM

There will be 3 2SS Camaros and 2 GT Premium Mustangs by the end of the year in the parking lot at my job. I still have the only 370z. (there is an 81 280Z).

The camaro guys are talking trash, sure. They have over 420 HP and lbs/ft torque!!! Between traffic lights, I'm sure they'll get me unless they don't know how to drive.

Those guys throw out the following all the time at work:

- They paid less for a fully loaded 2SS than my Nismo.
- They have a back seat.
- They get better gas mileage (um...no)
- They are faster.

Usually the only comeback I need is, "Yeah, but I have a Z."

Greg · 10-25-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dalparadise

We should be glad they're not acting like jerks, at least not where you are, it seems.

Give it time..Esp when they start hitting the used market.

Zsteve · 10-25-2009, 08:45 AM

I would have thought it would be a close race,there times are similar to ours from what I have seen on the internet. Now the real test will be to line up with one. Being they are a V8 and all that HP I actually would think there numbers would be better but Matt let me know when that happens and I show up and see if a 7AT makes a diff too and hopefully I will have my FIs by then for a little extra help.

Pharmacist · 10-25-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

Really? You do know that a Camaro SS will crap all over you in any contest of speed, right? Just making sure, in case you forgot the smiley after the sentence to denote sarcasm. LOL, oh yeah...they'll beat you a road-course, too.

What are you smoking? In a straight line, they might have a small edge, which they should considering that overbloated engine in them. But a road course? You kidding? Nothing on the lower end of a cayman s can hang to the z on a track.

CBRich · 10-25-2009, 09:57 AM

Here we go. Let's go ahead and put it out there now. DRIVER'S RACE. BOTTOM LINE. A Camaro will not "crap all over you" in your Z.

I won't post them all here but feel free to look up the numbers obtained by your favorite magazine and you will see how close the numbers are.

Matt · 10-25-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

Here we go. Let's go ahead and put it out there now. DRIVER'S RACE. BOTTOM LINE. A Camaro will not "crap all over you" in your Z.

I won't post them all here but feel free to look up the numbers obtained by your favorite magazine and you will see how close the numbers are.

Magazine race?!?!? VROOM VROOM!

m4a1mustang · 10-25-2009, 10:32 AM

This thread = fail.

I have given and received thumbs ups from guys in Challengers, Camaros, whatever. Enthusiasts show respect.

370Zsteve · 10-25-2009, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeD

Really? You do know that a Camaro SS will crap all over you in any contest of speed, right? Just making sure, in case you forgot the smiley after the sentence to denote sarcasm. LOL, oh yeah...they'll beat you a road-course, too.

Still, not a huge fan of the Camaro. It's a good car all around at a great value, but a sports-car it is not. And, yes...they are more common than the Z, but that's partially due to the wider range in price from base V6 to fully-loaded SS.

"a sports car it is not", as you say. So why say i the same breath that it will beat a 370Z on a road course? Makes no sense.

From Car & Driver:

"Although looking over the long, beveled hood (of the SS) is a view every muscle-car fan will relish, the low roof, high waistline, and wall-like rear pillars make the car drive big (not good for twisty two-lanes), a complaint we also level at the Challenger.

And these specs tell me a competent driver in a 370Z on a road course will "crap all over" a Camaro SS:

Camaro SS	Manual	Automatic
Acceleration
0-60 mph	4.8 sec	4.9 sec
0-100 mph	10.8 sec	11.1 sec
0-120	15.4 sec	16.3 sec
0-140 mph	21.7 sec	24.8 sec
0-150 mph	26.2 sec	--
mile	13.3 sec @ 111 mph	13.4 sec @ 109 mph
30-70 mph passing	6.3 sec	6.2 sec
Peak g	0.63 g	0.69 g
Braking
70-0 mph	149 ft	153 ft
Peak g	1.12	1.1
Cornering
L	0.94 g	--
R	0.93 g	--
Weight
Curb Weight	3859 lbs	3896 lbs
Distribution (percent f/r)	52.2/ 47.8	52.3/47.7
Speed in Gears
1st	52 mph	38 mph
2nd	76 mph	64 mph
3rd	110 mph	99 mph
4th	157 mph (limited)	131 mph
5th	157 mph (limited)	157 mph (limited)
6th	140 mph	140 mph

Matt · 10-25-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I have given and received thumbs ups from guys in Challengers, Camaros, whatever. Enthusiasts show respect.

I'm 0 for 2 from muscle cars. 1 Camaro guy and 1 old guy in a vette(is a vette a muscle car???)...neither waved or nodded back to my hello.

I'm 2 for 2 from sports cars. 350Z and WRX STI both gestured back. The WRX couldn't stop staring!

m4a1mustang · 10-25-2009, 11:18 AM

Vette = Sports Car

WRX = Compact Sport Sedan

shabarivas · 10-25-2009, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeD

Really? You do know that a Camaro SS will crap all over you in any contest of speed, right? Just making sure, in case you forgot the smiley after the sentence to denote sarcasm. LOL, oh yeah...they'll beat you a road-course, too.

Still, not a huge fan of the Camaro. It's a good car all around at a great value, but a sports-car it is not. And, yes...they are more common than the Z, but that's partially due to the wider range in price from base V6 to fully-loaded SS.

Road course? you mean a straight line? I hope you mean a straight line...

theDreamer · 10-25-2009, 11:58 AM

To actually add some input, the Camaro is very popular, but I think currently your older generation is buying them up quickly. They want to re-live those days long ago and many have been waitin patiently for five(?) years for this car.

10-25-2009, 03:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	Has anyone noticed this? Camaros are starting to be the new Mustangs? These things are turning up EVERYWHERE now, makes me glad I didnt go with the Camaro and got the Z instead, I've seen maybe 3 in the city since i've had mine, i've already seen 15 Camaros today. Funny thing though, not one attempted to rev on me, shocking really. Guess they know whats up. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

10-25-2009, 08:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	I would have thought it would be a close race,there times are similar to ours from what I have seen on the internet. Now the real test will be to line up with one. Being they are a V8 and all that HP I actually would think there numbers would be better but Matt let me know when that happens and I show up and see if a 7AT makes a diff too and hopefully I will have my FIs by then for a little extra help. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

10-25-2009, 10:32 AM	#10 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	This thread = fail. I have given and received thumbs ups from guys in Challengers, Camaros, whatever. Enthusiasts show respect. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook! Last edited by m4a1mustang; 10-25-2009 at 10:43 AM.

10-25-2009, 11:18 AM	#13 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Vette = Sports Car WRX = Compact Sport Sedan __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-25-2009, 11:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	To actually add some input, the Camaro is very popular, but I think currently your older generation is buying them up quickly. They want to re-live those days long ago and many have been waitin patiently for five(?) years for this car. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

10-25-2009, 05:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
dalparadise The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 354 Drives: 2010 Z Roadster T/S Rep Power: 16	What's up is that a Camaro SS will spank a Z handily in acceleration. The melt-your-tires-at-every-stoplight crowd has their icon back. The Z was never meant to roll with them. We should be glad they're not acting like jerks, at least not where you are, it seems.

10-25-2009, 07:09 AM	#4 (permalink)
Matt A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Augusta, GA Age: 41 Posts: 1,680 Drives: 2010 Avalanche LT Rep Power: 19	There will be 3 2SS Camaros and 2 GT Premium Mustangs by the end of the year in the parking lot at my job. I still have the only 370z. (there is an 81 280Z). The camaro guys are talking trash, sure. They have over 420 HP and lbs/ft torque!!! Between traffic lights, I'm sure they'll get me unless they don't know how to drive. Those guys throw out the following all the time at work: - They paid less for a fully loaded 2SS than my Nismo. - They have a back seat. - They get better gas mileage (um...no) - They are faster. Usually the only comeback I need is, "Yeah, but I have a Z."

10-25-2009, 09:57 AM	#8 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	Here we go. Let's go ahead and put it out there now. DRIVER'S RACE. BOTTOM LINE. A Camaro will not "crap all over you" in your Z. I won't post them all here but feel free to look up the numbers obtained by your favorite magazine and you will see how close the numbers are.

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