Has anyone noticed this?

JoeD · 10-25-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

Here we go. Let's go ahead and put it out there now. DRIVER'S RACE. BOTTOM LINE. A Camaro will not "crap all over you" in your Z.

"Driver's race" is far too common of an excuse. Yes, a driver's capability makes a significant difference, but how far do you want to take that? An automatic Accord or Camry will stay right next to a bogged and mis-shifted STi from a dig to about 70 MPH. Is that a "driver's race" too?

The SS has enough of an acceleration advantage over the Z to where the outcome would be clear with both drivers of the same competency level. In outright acceleration, as in from a 60 MPH roll, an SS should walk away from a Z. Their trap-speed advantage is evidence of that, on top of the huge discrepancy in 0-140+ acceleration.

I am in no way "taking sides" with the Camaro. I've obviously made a choice of the Z over the Camaro for many...I'm just not blinded by my own bias. I'm a realist.

370Zsteve · 10-25-2009, 05:32 PM

^^^^

frost · 10-25-2009, 05:35 PM

maggot head · 10-25-2009, 05:36 PM

The only thing better about the camaro is the engine. Everything else is better about the Z. The camaro engine fits perfectly in the Z.

antennahead · 10-25-2009, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

dad · 10-25-2009, 06:09 PM

I've noticed more new Camaro's than 370's around here!

Trips · 10-25-2009, 06:14 PM

in 5 months I have owned my Z I have seen many Camaro's than the Z, in my area...

smurfblu13 · 10-25-2009, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeD

An automatic Accord or Camry will stay right next to a bogged and mis-shifted STi from a dig to about 70 MPH. Is that a "driver's race" too?

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost

After that sentence there I agree with you Frost. Welp see you guys later.....

smurfblu13 · 10-25-2009, 06:27 PM

However to get back on topic. I have seen a decent amount of SS's around me. I must say, they do sound pretty damn great. Actually compared to the V6 I have seen a lot more SS's running around.

kannibul · 10-25-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

"a sports car it is not", as you say. So why say i the same breath that it will beat a 370Z on a road course? Makes no sense.

From Car & Driver:

"Although looking over the long, beveled hood (of the SS) is a view every muscle-car fan will relish, the low roof, high waistline, and wall-like rear pillars make the car drive big (not good for twisty two-lanes), a complaint we also level at the Challenger.

And these specs tell me a competent driver in a 370Z on a road course will "crap all over" a Camaro SS:

Camaro SS	Manual	Automatic
Acceleration
0-60 mph	4.8 sec	4.9 sec
0-100 mph	10.8 sec	11.1 sec
0-120	15.4 sec	16.3 sec
0-140 mph	21.7 sec	24.8 sec
0-150 mph	26.2 sec	--
mile	13.3 sec @ 111 mph	13.4 sec @ 109 mph
30-70 mph passing	6.3 sec	6.2 sec
Peak g	0.63 g	0.69 g
Braking
70-0 mph	149 ft	153 ft
Peak g	1.12	1.1
Cornering
L	0.94 g	--
R	0.93 g	--
Weight
Curb Weight	3859 lbs	3896 lbs
Distribution (percent f/r)	52.2/ 47.8	52.3/47.7
Speed in Gears
1st	52 mph	38 mph
2nd	76 mph	64 mph
3rd	110 mph	99 mph
4th	157 mph (limited)	131 mph
5th	157 mph (limited)	157 mph (limited)
6th	140 mph	140 mph

6th gear slower? is it just too tall of an overdrive? (to get better gas mileage, I assume?)

frost · 10-25-2009, 06:42 PM

smurfblu13 · 10-25-2009, 06:45 PM

You need to photoshop a horrible accident at the end of the thread direction arrow. That would be much more accurate.

Trips · 10-25-2009, 06:45 PM

smurfblu13 · 10-25-2009, 06:50 PM

^ good enough

fairladyZ34 · 10-25-2009, 06:54 PM

ill usually see a handful of new camaros daily whereas i only see a Z if im looking at my car

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