Subaru WRX fan reports on Z.

b1adesofcha0s · 06-25-2015, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z

I think the Z is already competitive but if Nissan throw some TT from factory it would be a lot more just my 2cents!

Depends on what you're comparing it to. If you're looking at cars around the $30-40k range I don't think it's all that competitive. The Mustang and Camaro definitely out class the Z in terms of performance. When the 370Z was first released, it was competitive with those 2 cars. Both Ford and GM have updated them since then and left the Nissan behind because it failed to do the same.

This is the reason why I didn't even consider a Z for my next car purchase. If they had released one or confirmed any details that revealed it could be competitive with those cars soon I may have considered getting another one. I had decided on getting a 2016 5.0 earlier this year and then I started looking at used C7's. As soon as I test drove one, my mind was pretty much made up. Just placed an order for a 2016 C7 like 2 weeks ago and should be getting it delivered around late August.

BC416 · 06-25-2015, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Ok. Let me say this one last time cuz some of y'all really don't get it... The Z34 is an ...
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The Z is completely cost effective @ 5,000 units a year. It has

Mass produced chassis
Mass produced transmission
Mass produced engine
Mass produced ecu
Mass produced intake plenum
Mass produced brakes

The most unique features of the Z is
The shell
The SRM feature on the manual
The interior bits

This is NOT a GTR running on a mass of exclusive parts.

It's a Frankenstein car from the infiniti bin.

My point still stands. Every car that poster mentioned except the miata is a mass-produced car meant to sell 100s of thousands. Stop taking it personal that Nissan is not making the car YOU want. It's a business meant to make $$$.

Like I said, just enjoy the car and stop worrying about it.

onzedge · 06-25-2015, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Depends on what you're comparing it to. If you're looking at cars around the $30-40k range I don't think it's all that competitive. The Mustang and Camaro definitely out class the Z in terms of performance. When the 370Z was first released, it was competitive with those 2 cars. Both Ford and GM have updated them since then and left the Nissan behind because it failed to do the same.

This is the reason why I didn't even consider a Z for my next car purchase. If they had released one or confirmed any details that revealed it could be competitive with those cars soon I may have considered getting another one. I had decided on getting a 2016 5.0 earlier this year and then I started looking at used C7's. As soon as I test drove one, my mind was pretty much made up. Just placed an order for a 2016 C7 like 2 weeks ago and should be getting it delivered around late August.

Ghostvette · 06-25-2015, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Depends on what you're comparing it to. If you're looking at cars around the $30-40k range I don't think it's all that competitive. The Mustang and Camaro definitely out class the Z in terms of performance. When the 370Z was first released, it was competitive with those 2 cars. Both Ford and GM have updated them since then and left the Nissan behind because it failed to do the same.

This is the reason why I didn't even consider a Z for my next car purchase. If they had released one or confirmed any details that revealed it could be competitive with those cars soon I may have considered getting another one. I had decided on getting a 2016 5.0 earlier this year and then I started looking at used C7's. As soon as I test drove one, my mind was pretty much made up. Just placed an order for a 2016 C7 like 2 weeks ago and should be getting it delivered around late August.

I'd love to take a test drive in a C7, but considering I couldn't even get the asshat salesman to let me drive a USED C6, it's pointless.

carlitos_370z · 06-25-2015, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Depends on what you're comparing it to. If you're looking at cars around the $30-40k range I don't think it's all that competitive. The Mustang and Camaro definitely out class the Z in terms of performance. When the 370Z was first released, it was competitive with those 2 cars. Both Ford and GM have updated them since then and left the Nissan behind because it failed to do the same.

This is the reason why I didn't even consider a Z for my next car purchase. If they had released one or confirmed any details that revealed it could be competitive with those cars soon I may have considered getting another one. I had decided on getting a 2016 5.0 earlier this year and then I started looking at used C7's. As soon as I test drove one, my mind was pretty much made up. Just placed an order for a 2016 C7 like 2 weeks ago and should be getting it delivered around late August.

and congrats on the C7 dude!!! that damn vette looks amazing... and trust me I love the new Mustang chassis especially the 5.0 Performance Package

I love my Z... but if that chassis arrive at the moment that i be thinking on buy my Z... the story was different loool!

b1adesofcha0s · 06-25-2015, 01:31 PM

Thanks guys, I can't wait till it's finally here. As far as getting a test drive in a Vette, I think you just gotta find the right dealer. First place I went to wouldn't let me test drive one either. I got lucky that my cousin works at CarMax and they just happened to get a used one in on their lot. Wasn't able to take it out for long, but it was more than enough to convince me it was the right car. Then when I pulled back into the lot, I realized that I had left it in Touring (Comfort) mode the whole time and it still impressed me

Felt like driving a Z, but better in every way. I did test drive a 2015 5.0 earlier and loved it, but the size of the car did bug me a bit compared to the Z. That's why I started looking at Corvettes. Looks better inside/outside, drives better, and sounds much better than my Z. Probably why it costs twice as much

kenchan · 06-25-2015, 02:32 PM

i guess if ure tracking these cars that would make sense.

another thing i dont understand are these cars and coffee get togethers. u guys just sit around talking/bragging about car specs while u could be driving around and enjoying them. maybe great for photographers and museum goers.

car clinics, DIY get togethers, i can understand.

b1adesofcha0s · 06-25-2015, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

i guess if ure tracking these cars that would make sense.

another thing i dont understand are these cars and coffee get togethers. u guys just sit around talking/bragging about car specs while u could be driving around and enjoying them. maybe great for photographers and museum goers.

car clinics, DIY get togethers, i can understand.

I have tracked my Z twice and do plan on doing some light tracking on the C7 eventually. I do LOVE to do some spirited driving though. Only times I will go to C&C events now are with our local MAZOC group or one of the larger events in the area to see some new exotic car that I haven't seen in person before.

kenchan · 06-25-2015, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I have tracked my Z twice and do plan on doing some light tracking on the C7 eventually. I do LOVE to do some spirited driving though. Only times I will go to C&C events now are with our local MAZOC group or one of the larger events in the area to see some new exotic car that I haven't seen in person before.

sounds good

vtec to vvel · 06-25-2015, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette

I thought the GTR was an inline six, at least it was a couple (?) years back...shows how much I know...

the skyline r34 was an I6. the nissan gtr r35 (2009+) is a V6.

Ghostvette · 06-25-2015, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

the skyline r34 was an I6. the nissan gtr r35 (2009+) is a V6.

Thanks for the enlightenment.

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-25-2015, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BC416

My point still stands. Every car that poster mentioned except the miata is a mass-produced car meant to sell 100s of thousands. Stop taking it personal that Nissan is not making the car YOU want. It's a business meant to make $$$.

Like I said, just enjoy the car and stop worrying about it.

When you bought your car? Did u buy it new or used?

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-25-2015, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I have tracked my Z twice and do plan on doing some light tracking on the C7 eventually. I do LOVE to do some spirited driving though. Only times I will go to C&C events now are with our local MAZOC group or one of the larger events in the area to see some new exotic car that I haven't seen in person before.

I test drive the vette and I'm crazy about it for a host of reasons I don't feel like writing out right now... But in short, as a street car. I still think the Z is still better suited. You get to 60 waaaaayyy too fast in the vette on the street and there's not as much drama that can be had on roads as with the Z. It must've hit 60 well under 4.0 seconds. But I came out of my test drive thinking. Maybe a Z06 as a dedicated track car? The vette was well behaved on the road and it's transitional ability was stupendous. The C7 fit and finish made the Z feel dated. I tested a black vette with red leather. Very nice car. Amazing experience. Getting on the highway Wowed me. That's where the vette took the Z out completely. Especially when I hit the donut exit. Wow... Loads of grip.

For us willing to spend over $70k. There are so many sports car options. Under $70k is starting to lose ground again like the 90's. It's gonna be Miatas and muscle, all over again.

vtec to vvel · 06-25-2015, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I test drive the vette and I'm crazy about it for a host of reasons I don't feel like writing out right now... But in short, as a street car. I still think the Z is still better suited. You get to 60 waaaaayyy too fast in the vette on the street and there's not as much drama that can be had on roads as with the Z. It must've hit 60 well under 4.0 seconds. But I came out of my test drive thinking. Maybe a Z06 as a dedicated track car? The vette was well behaved on the road and it's transitional ability was stupendous. The C7 fit and finish made the Z feel dated. I tested a black vette with red leather. Very nice car. Amazing experience. Getting on the highway Wowed me. That's where the vette took the Z out completely. Especially when I hit the donut exit. Wow... Loads of grip.

For us willing to spend over $70k. There are so many sports car options. Under $70k is starting to lose ground again like the 90's. It's gonna be Miatas and muscle, all over again.

this isn't the "fanboy" in me talking, but the ONLY car i would consider buying over 70k is the nissan gtr.

kenchan · 06-25-2015, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

this isn't the "fanboy" in me talking, but the ONLY car i would consider buying over 70k is the nissan gtr.

really? id get me a ferrari 458 and just sit around cars and coffee all day long..lol

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b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	Thanks guys, I can't wait till it's finally here. As far as getting a test drive in a Vette, I think you just gotta find the right dealer. First place I went to wouldn't let me test drive one either. I got lucky that my cousin works at CarMax and they just happened to get a used one in on their lot. Wasn't able to take it out for long, but it was more than enough to convince me it was the right car. Then when I pulled back into the lot, I realized that I had left it in Touring (Comfort) mode the whole time and it still impressed me Felt like driving a Z, but better in every way. I did test drive a 2015 5.0 earlier and loved it, but the size of the car did bug me a bit compared to the Z. That's why I started looking at Corvettes. Looks better inside/outside, drives better, and sounds much better than my Z. Probably why it costs twice as much UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	i guess if ure tracking these cars that would make sense. another thing i dont understand are these cars and coffee get togethers. u guys just sit around talking/bragging about car specs while u could be driving around and enjoying them. maybe great for photographers and museum goers. car clinics, DIY get togethers, i can understand. AntiVenom likes this.

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