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Just thinking about installing a Stillen S/C but then started pricing all the little add-ons that are needed inter-cooler, upgraded fuel injectors, vented hood, etc.. etc.. looking at 7k !!!!!!

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Old 05-27-2015, 09:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just thinking about installing a Stillen S/C but then started pricing all the little add-ons that are needed inter-cooler, upgraded fuel injectors, vented hood, etc.. etc.. looking at 7k !!!!!! Does anyone have any ideas how to get more RWHP for the buck









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Does anyone have any ideas how to get more RWHP for the buck
5.0 Mustang. FI is the only way to get big power out of a Z, and it's not going to stop at 7k either. You're also looking at a new clutch, wider rear wheels, install, tune, etc etc... like you said, the add-ons will get you.

If you already have test pipes, a tune, exhaust, and a G3 you're just about maxed on "normal" mods. Maybe a lightweight pulley and flywheel will help some. Other than that, there's always nitrous.
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How are you only at 7k with the add-ons? The kit itself is almost 7k. You shouldn't need too many add-ons to the Stillen kit unless

1. You're tracking hard in which you would need a lot of cooling.

2. You want much more power than the kit creates (410whp,300 wtrg) in whcih case you shouldn't be getting that kit to beign with since it doesn't do so well when people try to push more than that out of it.
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I will leave it as is if you have a 6MT and a Stillen SC you are doing it wrong. the SC kit is only good for us AT guys with weak trans
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I will leave it as is if you have a 6MT and a Stillen SC you are doing it wrong. the SC kit is only good for us AT guys with weak trans
You can upgrade the clutch packs to gain endurance for boost on the AT
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FI will have a AT upgrade which consists of clutch packs and flex plate.
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Much more expensive then the MT would cost is what im trying to say here, yeah sure you can go ahead and get a level 10 built AT -.-
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You're mostly maxed out with your mods. You can do some throttle body or manifold porting to make a few more HP, but unless you want to drop that $10-15K for forced induction, there's not much else you can do.

What are your goals with the car?
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What are your goals with the car?
I think this key point is what a lot of people miss. I'm willing to bet that 99% of us can't lap a stock Z as fast as a "good" driver anyway, so the extra power is mostly for bragging rights and that "holy-crap-imma-die" feeling on acceleration. Nothing wrong with that, but $15k is a lot to spend on top of what already isn't a cheap car just for bragging rights.

If you're having fun with just a tune and mild mods, leave it alone. Better yet, take some driving lessons at the track and have some real fun.

Rant over.
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OP, keep it NA and change out the gears in the rear end.
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I think this key point is what a lot of people miss. I'm willing to bet that 99% of us can't lap a stock Z as fast as a "good" driver anyway, so the extra power is mostly for bragging rights and that "holy-crap-imma-die" feeling on acceleration. Nothing wrong with that, but $15k is a lot to spend on top of what already isn't a cheap car just for bragging rights.

If you're having fun with just a tune and mild mods, leave it alone. Better yet, take some driving lessons at the track and have some real fun.

Rant over.


This is pretty much why I ask that question to anyone posting about modding advice. Someone who wants a fast highway beast is going to get different advice than someone looking to get into Auto-X or road racing.
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Grab a C6 Corvette :P it's hell of a lot cheaper to mod too!
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