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sharigan 05-27-2015 11:14 AM

2009 370z
 
Hello everyone,

I will be purchasing a 370z soon and would like to know if there's any draw back in the variation of the years. I currently own a 08 six speed 350z grand touring and from that I know that the 03-06 was the de motor and 07-08 was the HR Motor which has fewer problems and a little bit more horse. Does that apply to the 370z as well? I'm debating now towards a 2009 six speed 370z and a 2014 370z. if there is really no variation than I will probably get the 2009 which is 3 grand cheaper. please list any cons & pros for someone that will be purchasing a 370z.

Thank You

kenchan 05-27-2015 11:22 AM

for only 3K difference and if ure okay with the 14 bumper, go with the 14.

cooltoy 05-27-2015 11:24 AM

:iagree:

cooltoy 05-27-2015 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3190707)
To answer some of your question the Z particularly the 2009-2010 models have the following.

1. CSC failures 2009 -up
2. Steering lock failures. 2009 models
3. Oil temp going limp mode when driven hard on track- need oil cooler


njobe89 05-27-2015 01:01 PM

for only 3g more i would get the 2014. it's newer and less of a chance that someone has abused it.

sharigan 05-27-2015 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3210547)
for only 3g more i would get the 2014. it's newer and less of a chance that someone has abused it.

The 09 has about 16,000 mile On it. Still pretty good if you ask me. The reason why I'm more towards the 09 now (I wanted the 14 previously) is because I'm trading in my 08 350z which still has a loan on it. For sure I already know I'm going to be upside down on the valuation which in term will add more money to the newer z that I initially want. The amt on the 14 z is $25,900. Not bad but danm. I guess I'll try to negotiate with the dealer to see what happen. I love that 14 pearl white 370z though. Danm sexy

jpkirk 05-27-2015 03:10 PM

Yup, if you can swing it, the 2014. Five years, even if it only has 16K is time on the vehicle. Seals, bushings, fluids etc. Course it does depend on how many miles the 2014 has and if it was taken care of.

vtec to vvel 05-27-2015 03:15 PM

OP, i traded my 07 350Z 6mt for an 09 370Z about 3 months ago. despite what others say about common issues, IMO every car is different. for example, there was an open recall on my 07 350Z, but never got it fixed and never had any issues. likewise, my 09 370Z runs like a champ. 16k miles for an 09 is way low miles, and if you know you will be carrying negative equity into the new loan, i would go with the 09.

BC416 05-27-2015 03:23 PM

Go with the 14 for the extra 3k if it's in good condition. You are still well within Bumper to Bumper warranty on the 14 which is always nice to have. No steering lock issues either.

Z_ealot 05-27-2015 04:14 PM

Imo i would test drive both and see what kind of deal you can work out on both of them, speaking from the experience of just picking up a high mileage 09 Z myself, there really isnt much that can go wrong with these cars aside from the problems that have been talked about on these forums plus the regular wear and tear items like clutches and fluids and such. Just be prepared on the 09 to be going through it and doing all the maintenance on it that should have been done by the previous owner, but wasn't. Other than that, for the most part the 370Z seems to hold up quite nicely as far as the mechanical and electronics go.

ssmoked 05-27-2015 04:31 PM

I would just keep the 350z if it's mechanically ok. Save the money for rainy days or wait til next gen Z comes out. The prices of 370z right now are dropping like flies. Saw a brand new base sell for 27k

kenchan 05-27-2015 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sharigan (Post 3210627)
The 09 has about 16,000 mile On it. Still pretty good if you ask me. The reason why I'm more towards the 09 now (I wanted the 14 previously) is because I'm trading in my 08 350z which still has a loan on it. For sure I already know I'm going to be upside down on the valuation which in term will add more money to the newer z that I initially want. The amt on the 14 z is $25,900. Not bad but danm. I guess I'll try to negotiate with the dealer to see what happen. I love that 14 pearl white 370z though. Danm sexy

dang, who the hell drives only 16K miles on a 2009?! :mad:

that is crazy. mine has 17K miles. only 16K miles...super crazy. :shakes head:

Fuzzzy 05-27-2015 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3210751)
dang, who the hell drives only 16K miles on a 2009?! :mad:

that is crazy. mine has 17K miles. only 16K miles...super crazy. :shakes head:

Owner probably lived 30 miles south of you. Those accumulated summer driving days really take their toll.

:rofl2:

Oops. North ldo.

Z-Girl 12 05-27-2015 05:33 PM

Pay off the 350Z why be upside in payments? Put a lil in the bank for a rainy day.

nis350 05-27-2015 06:21 PM

In order to answer your questions, you need to provide more info about these cars - mileages, options, condition etc...

$3k seems very reasonable for a 5 years newer car with warranty assuming all is similar.

Another point is that if you are already max'ed out on the 09 model financially, then it is a mull point.

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Originally Posted by sharigan (Post 3210382)
Hello everyone,

I will be purchasing a 370z soon and would like to know if there's any draw back in the variation of the years. I currently own a 08 six speed 350z grand touring and from that I know that the 03-06 was the de motor and 07-08 was the HR Motor which has fewer problems and a little bit more horse. Does that apply to the 370z as well? I'm debating now towards a 2009 six speed 370z and a 2014 370z. if there is really no variation than I will probably get the 2009 which is 3 grand cheaper. please list any cons & pros for someone that will be purchasing a 370z.

Thank You


Z_ealot 05-27-2015 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12 (Post 3210784)
Pay off the 350Z why be upside in payments? Put a lil in the bank for a rainy day.

Unless he's getting raped by his interest rate on his current loan

Z-Girl 12 05-27-2015 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 3210830)
Unless he's getting raped by his interest rate on his current loan

Good point...but if his credit is good enough to get into another Z why not just refinance at a lower rate and pay it off?

TreeSemdyZee 05-27-2015 07:10 PM

As far as the engine goes, the 370 engine is the same as the '07-'08 HR 350. It is an HR motor, just a little bigger.


Just a piece of advice from an old fart that did it for too many years, get away from putting yourself in the "upside down" state. It will only cause you more stress than you need to deal with.
The excitement that I get from having a fully paid for car is a lot more than having a new shiny car. :twocents:

kenchan 05-27-2015 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12 (Post 3210784)
Pay off the 350Z why be upside in payments? Put a lil in the bank for a rainy day.

That sounds too logical for op... wakarimasen.. :ugh:

Limeybastard 05-27-2015 10:41 PM

Go for the 13+ then most will think its a 350z . God damn, that front bumper on the 13+, why?

sharigan 05-28-2015 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by nis350 (Post 3210829)
In order to answer your questions, you need to provide more info about these cars - mileages, options, condition etc...

$3k seems very reasonable for a 5 years newer car with warranty assuming all is similar.

Another point is that if you are already max'ed out on the 09 model financially, then it is a mull point.

2014 pearl white 370z sport package: 23,230 miles $25,900
2014 red 370z sport package: 9,560 miles $25,900
2009 red 370z sport: 16,100 miles $22,900

sharigan 05-28-2015 12:53 AM

Thanks for all the reply. There are a lot of 2013 370z nearby but their all automatics, I'm looking for a sport package six speed. It look like one of my family member is interested in my 350z so hopefully he'll take that and I can just grab the 370z. Below is a pic of my 350z and G35


https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...91826233_o.jpg

njobe89 05-28-2015 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sharigan (Post 3210627)
The 09 has about 16,000 mile On it. Still pretty good if you ask me. The reason why I'm more towards the 09 now (I wanted the 14 previously) is because I'm trading in my 08 350z which still has a loan on it. For sure I already know I'm going to be upside down on the valuation which in term will add more money to the newer z that I initially want. The amt on the 14 z is $25,900. Not bad but danm. I guess I'll try to negotiate with the dealer to see what happen. I love that 14 pearl white 370z though. Danm sexy

what you posted below would answer my question here but i was too lazy to erase this part lol
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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3210751)
dang, who the hell drives only 16K miles on a 2009?! :mad:

that is crazy. mine has 17K miles. only 16K miles...super crazy. :shakes head:

hope you get poison ivy :)
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Originally Posted by sharigan (Post 3211091)
2014 pearl white 370z sport package: 23,230 miles $25,900
2014 red 370z sport package: 9,560 miles $25,900
2009 red 370z sport: 16,100 miles $22,900

in my opinion i'd go for the red one, it has less miles. the white one had a lot of driving done to it.

now how much do you still owe on your 350?
i would do a private sale, the dealership will probably give you 2-4k less then you could get from a private sale.

mishuko 05-28-2015 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3210751)
dang, who the hell drives only 16K miles on a 2009?! :mad:

that is crazy. mine has 17K miles. only 16K miles...super crazy. :shakes head:

i call BS! no one drives less than Ken. :bowrofl:

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Originally Posted by sharigan (Post 3211091)
2014 pearl white 370z sport package: 23,230 miles $25,900
2014 red 370z sport package: 9,560 miles $25,9002009 red 370z sport: 16,100 miles $22,900

the 14 red one based on these numbers only.

Test your negotiating skills, you should be able to push it down to 25 flat without too much difficulty.

Others have a point, if you're stretching too thin to be able to afford a rainy day then do not bother to get it.

the 14 white based on that mileage was a DD + travel car.... but 23k miles is starting to reach 90ST (another user on this forum who clocked over 200k miles)...

Birdfan67 05-28-2015 08:19 AM

Newer model year will net you a better interest rate and term.. $3k equates to about $60-75 more per mo.. if payment is not a major concern, then roll with the 2014. My concern is how much neg your rolling into your new loan ?? if its 3-4k , then I would consider the 14 as well...I'd rather be upside-down in a newer car with warranty...than a car potentially with none on it due to age... which segsways into the next question ?.. extended warranty ?? your probably looking at 2k for piece of mind...please have some type of warranty driving off the lot, 1 major repair can cost $$$$ .I would save some cash to offset your neg...find like an 2011-2012 with certified warranty on it...spending/financing less.
Your insurance likely will be cheaper as well...sometimes timing is everything...good luck !

HFO3 05-28-2015 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12 (Post 3210784)
Pay off the 350Z why be upside in payments? Put a lil in the bank for a rainy day.

THIS^^^ Never go upside down on a depreciating liability item.
Be patient there is always another "good deal" waiting.

nis350 05-28-2015 04:42 PM

I'll take the red one. However, common sense tells me that something isn't right about the price/car. Why would the 2014's be the same price when there is 14k miles difference?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharigan (Post 3211091)
2014 pearl white 370z sport package: 23,230 miles $25,900
2014 red 370z sport package: 9,560 miles $25,900
2009 red 370z sport: 16,100 miles $22,900


sharigan 05-30-2015 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nis350 (Post 3211912)
I'll take the red one. However, common sense tells me that something isn't right about the price/car. Why would the 2014's be the same price when there is 14k miles difference?

Yea I was thinking about that too, especially since both of the 2014 z are from the same dealer. Something fishy here. Because if this was the case then the white Z should be at least 1-2 grand cheaper right?

sharigan 05-30-2015 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3211173)
what you posted below would answer my question here but i was too lazy to erase this part lol

hope you get poison ivy :)


in my opinion i'd go for the red one, it has less miles. the white one had a lot of driving done to it.

now how much do you still owe on your 350?
i would do a private sale, the dealership will probably give you 2-4k less then you could get from a private sale.

I still owe about $16,300, I'm assuming the trade in value would be around 13-14 grand so thats 2 grand rolling over..

And the thing i find kind of odd is how come the same year, model, package with totally different mileage be the same price..wierd

jchammond 05-31-2015 10:00 AM

09' has lost it's 5yr. 60k mile power train warranty-don't forget that... Car is overpriced-except if sold by individual. You should be able to get the 09 for under 20 at least; if not 18-19


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geddy lee 05-31-2015 02:13 PM

I have a 2009 sport with 67 K on it. I pulled the steering lock fuse a long time ago. I have not had any issues with the CSC or the oil temp. I guess every car is different and so far its been great except for the fact that I have gone through some tires, no tracking, just the back road twisties. I just got some PSSs and they are f--king incredible!

OldGuy 05-31-2015 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzzy (Post 3210767)
Owner probably lived 30 miles south of you. Those accumulated summer driving days really take their toll.

:rofl2:

Oops. North ldo.

Makes me totally insane, then, as my 2009 just turned 14,000 mi. (Stored in winter and hobby car only in summer.)
The 2009 that OP is looking at might be like mine---showroom new in every way. Further, I always get concerned about a very new car traded in or for sale (unless, of course, it's brand new). If it's brand new, go for the '14. If the 2014 isn't brand new though, I'd be concerned it's a bad one and take a good long look at the '09.

jchammond 05-31-2015 04:50 PM

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...8de853f731.jpg my 11' w/54k on it.


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njobe89 06-01-2015 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sharigan (Post 3213391)
I still owe about $16,300, I'm assuming the trade in value would be around 13-14 grand so thats 2 grand rolling over..

And the thing i find kind of odd is how come the same year, model, package with totally different mileage be the same price..wierd

have you tried looking at private sales to see what they go for?
i don't think 2g is bad, but if you can have 0 that's always best.
what kind of monthly rate are you looking for, what can you afford and be comfortable, etc.

the car may have been sitting there for a while and they're losing money on it so they're trying to move it.

the sticker price on my 370 was almost 38g, it was a 2013 and i bought it in 2014, it was sitting on the lot not getting sold. it was lowered down to 29,500. not saying that's the reason for that price difference, but it may play a part.

also, look at the carfax, does it have a clean carfax?

sharigan 06-02-2015 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3215033)
have you tried looking at private sales to see what they go for?
i don't think 2g is bad, but if you can have 0 that's always best.
what kind of monthly rate are you looking for, what can you afford and be comfortable, etc.

the car may have been sitting there for a while and they're losing money on it so they're trying to move it.

the sticker price on my 370 was almost 38g, it was a 2013 and i bought it in 2014, it was sitting on the lot not getting sold. it was lowered down to 29,500. not saying that's the reason for that price difference, but it may play a part.

also, look at the carfax, does it have a clean carfax?



Yea 0 is always the best but its like they say, gotta pay to play. Well I paid $300 per month for my g35 and $310 for my 350z so a grand total of $610 per month. So maybe $500 a month is fine with me. I just figure since I'm already paying that much for two cars, I might as well sell/trade them in for something nicer you know. So I sold my g35 last week and now I have my z. Apparently some dumbass lady bumped into my lower rear passenger side panel and now there is a dent. I'm pretty sure the dealer will lower the trade in value on my car by a whole lot. The white 2014 Z that was at $25,900, the dealer increased its price to almost $30,000 so forget that one. Now I'm leaning more towards the 2009 red 370z manual with 16,100 miles since its only $22,900. I'm going to try to get it down to $22,000. Car fax on this vehicle is clean. Its 1 owner and it looks like he/she only drove it about 2,000 miles a year. :) So yeah tough decisions.




https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...19&oe=55F38F81


At Nissan looking at all those sexy beast, its like a car meet or something

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...69148035_o.jpg

njobe89 06-03-2015 06:43 AM

did you make anything on your g that you sold? and your payment should be anywhere near 500 a month... if it's 500 * 60 months (5 year) that's 30,000. you would be getting ripped of at that. again depending on how long you finance it for. if you're doing 5 years then your payment shouldn't be more then 440

sharigan 06-03-2015 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3217465)
did you make anything on your g that you sold? and your payment should be anywhere near 500 a month... if it's 500 * 60 months (5 year) that's 30,000. you would be getting ripped of at that. again depending on how long you finance it for. if you're doing 5 years then your payment shouldn't be more then 440



Yea, my only concern now is the dent on my current z and no I didn't make anything on my G. The new owner just took over the loan. I checked KBB for a value on my current 350z for a trade in and it says roughly around mid $14 grand to low $15 grand for a good condition version. I'm hoping at least $14,500? but I'm pretty sure their going to try and low ball me to the $13 thousand range or even lower.

njobe89 06-03-2015 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sharigan (Post 3217697)
Yea, my only concern now is the dent on my current z and no I didn't make anything on my G. The new owner just took over the loan. I checked KBB for a value on my current 350z for a trade in and it says roughly around mid $14 grand to low $15 grand for a good condition version. I'm hoping at least $14,500? but I'm pretty sure their going to try and low ball me to the $13 thousand range or even lower.

if they really want to sell the car, they will work something out with you. if they're in no hurry to sell the car, then they will low ball you.

don't be in a hurry to buy it and sometimes driving a couple hours is worth it as well... i drove 2 hours to buy mine because it was a few thousand cheaper.

mishuko 06-03-2015 11:24 AM

Used car... used car loan rates which are generally higher than new car offers. Remember,... compounding is what gets you. the longer the loan the more the burt hurt.

here's a link to play with numbers:

Auto Loan Calculator

sharigan 06-03-2015 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3217712)
if they really want to sell the car, they will work something out with you. if they're in no hurry to sell the car, then they will low ball you.

don't be in a hurry to buy it and sometimes driving a couple hours is worth it as well... i drove 2 hours to buy mine because it was a few thousand cheaper.

YEA I GUESS WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS ONCE I PAY THEM A VISIT. BTW you wouldn't happen to know anything about the 2009-2010 steering wheel lock issue would you? I might be getting the 09 370z. I email the Nissan dealership sales guy and his reply was that he asked one of the technician which than pulled up the history of the car and it looks like they just replaced it this year. Will it break in the future or is it permanently fix?


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