Originally Posted by dragonbreath 1) Which is garbage because ANYONE can make a mistake. This is why I have a strong dislike for defense attorneys. 2) Most newer LIDARs (laser)
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2. true, but, not all states use the same radar gun. either way, there will be some record that the device has been calibrated. if this cannot be produced, a good lawyer can and will argue the validity of the ticket. |
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So because this officer wrote down one digit wrong out of the guys license number, he is therefore proven incompetent for the entirety of the case? Lol give me a break. I understand the calibration of the equipment. I'm just saying that you shouldn't bank on that because officers know that will get the ticket thrown out, therefore they will probably take the ~5 seconds to do it.
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In my personal experience.. Cops have straight up lied.. I was speeding, cop pulls me over and gives me a reckless driving ticket.. When I read the ticket.. It said (I'm being serious here) that I was driving in such a reckless manor that cars were swerving off the road to avoid me crashing into them.. I couldn't believe it.. Had to get a lawyer and go through the court stuff.. In the end.. Cop agreed to reduce it to careless driving rather than reckless.. Bull f***ing shi*.. Had to pay court fees, lawyer, the ticket itself.. And had to do a ridiculous amount of community service hours.. All because the cop decided to lie and punish me for a more severe offense than what I had actually done.. Another incident.. Was speeding (82 on a 70).. Cop pulls me over.. Tells me I was doing 90.. I tell him I actually had cruise control set to 82 so I wasn't going 90.. His response.. "Oh.. So you're admitting to speeding then" gave me the ticket for 90.. This might seem negligible (90 rather than 82).. But it's not.. Going more than 15 mph over gets you points and therefore higher insurance rates.. So rather than paying it and that's it (what I deserved).. I had to do the whole driving school crap to avoid the points on my license. Sorry.. I have no respect for cops Last edited by Trips; 05-29-2015 at 02:04 AM. Reason: removed negative comment towards leo as its a forum violation |
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All that noted, I understand that there are some real azzholes out there who get off on hassling car enthusiasts (and speeders, in general), but, again, saying you have no respect for cops is pretty harsh. I'm sure if you were ever in need of real assistance from a LEO, you would feel differently. I'm not an apologist, just saying that I appreciate the fact that most cops have a difficult job that is pretty thankless. Last edited by Trips; 05-29-2015 at 02:05 AM. |
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The point of my analogy of wrong amputation vs speeding is the principle of attention to detail, and not so much of the level/degree of severity between the two. Both require specific attention to detail. If the leo writes inaccurate information on a citation, how much credibility do you think s/he will have in court? A decent lawyer can likely get a speeding ticket dismissed without any typos/inaccuracies, thus I'm pretty sure that a decent lawyer could get an inaccurate ticket dismissed, under what you stated as a "technicality", which btw you just proved my point to be valid (i.e. getting off on a technicality), after calling it "garbage". And yes, all because one letter/number/character is off, a lawyer could use that and possibly get the ticket dismissed, as you have stated, on a technicality. Sure, officers know to calibrate their equipment, as they are trained to do so. Officers are humans as well and can get complacent, and most importantly, as you also have stated, humans (which includes leo's) can make mistakes. |
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