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Mustangs and Camaro's have never given the feedback to the driver like a Z does. Not even close. You would have a hard time putting that in those cars suspension wise. Handling wise, they suck. So my stance is this, two totally different sets of cars. The only thing in the class is a Porsche Cayman. That is why the Z is compared to it and not other vehicles. So, if someone is comparing a Z to a Mustang or Camaro, they probably can't drive anyway so what is the difference. Just my .02.
The person who owned my Z before me ruined the clutch (Chattering pig), He traded it in on a Mustang. Enough said. |
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You can do some fast laps in a Mustang... The S197 did just fine at going around corners. I agree that it didn't really provide the kind of feedback/experience you get from the Z. The BRZ/FR-S is really good at the feedback/feel aspect, too, although it's very slow.
To me the Z strikes a nice balance between the brute force of something like the Mustang and the "nothing but finesse" of the BRZ/Miata type cars. |
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Don't sleep on the Challenger speed. But yeah the handling and feel isn't Z quality. But we know the Z will most like be up to par in the next Gen with the "muscle cars" as far as speed.
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i like z cars but let's not fool anybody guys. Nissan themselves admitted the z needs to go on a diet for better fuel economy and better recognition. They aren't gonna get that with the current z that get almost as bad gas mileage as a 5.0v8. Also the Blind spots, the horrible thin paint and clutch slave Cylinder issues don't help... Also I had to change the csc at 18,000 miles...
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You can definitely turn some blisteringly fast laps in a 5.0 if you know what you're doing. Bloated or not it's hands-down stock vs. stock or mod for mod faster than any Z and quite possibly the best performance bargain on the market today... hats off to Ford or you're just an ignorant hater/ricer.
However, there's a reason I drive a Z and that reason is because I buy my cars to drive, not to race, and driving a Z feels better than driving a Mustang. And I like Mustangs so it's not like I'm biased. ![]()
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The Camaro SS1LE serves Auto-Penis to the Mustang Gt's anus on Track and the intercourse is NO GEL status. Thats the Camaro vs the brand new stang. They only compare in str8 line performance... The Camaro is cheaper and hands down has REAL track worthiness. So the mustang, while beautiful to look at and a great road car. Is not quite the "PERFORMANCE" bargain in the muscle car arena, if we talkin' purely getting bang for buck.
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Ya know...
Last road course i uh "visited" had a Mustang which i let go in front of me when lining up. It was a... Mustang = More HP Boss 302 = More more HP Laguna Seca = More handling on slicks = faster than me They certainly can be fast, with the right setup and enough $$. ![]()
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The saddest part is Nissan hasn't even confirmed a new z being produced and released. I don't really take " my source at Nissan" toobseriously about a new z until it's confirmed by Nissan themselves officially. Don't forget there's a new focus rs coming out on top of the already mustang performer.
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