Nissan needs to do something

osbornsm · 05-13-2015, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

An M1 abrams tank has 2000hp.... lets compare it to cars.

Like i said... hp / weight

DLSTR · 05-13-2015, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12

Reliability, resale value and seeing all the cars mentioned every 3 seconds is enough for me to pay extra and have less hp.

YOU GO Z-GIRL AMEN!!! I now think this is the post of the year.....co shared with ONZEDGE!

Firebase99 · 05-13-2015, 04:47 PM

I think the ONLY comparable car in its class on the market is the 3.8 Gen Coupe. 350hp 300 tq, RWD, back "seats" only an infant can fit in. Having owned both, the 370 is a FAR better sports car than the GC. Base 3.8 GC starts at like $27k. I got mine fully loaded with more bells and whistles Nissan can shake a stick it for $34K OTD. It's a HELL of powerful, relatively nimble "sports" car but a much better touring car.

onzedge · 05-13-2015, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

An M1 abrams tank has 2000hp.... lets compare it to cars.

The M1 / IPM1 version weighs 60 tons -- 120,000 pounds

That means 60 lb/hp ratio -- not so good compared to a 370Z.

Push370zzz · 05-13-2015, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12

Reliability, resale value and seeing all the cars mentioned every 3 seconds is enough for me to pay extra and have less hp.

This is on point. The Z isn't the most powerful, but I cannot imagine driving a Ford even if it's a little faster.

Push370zzz · 05-13-2015, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

The M1 / IPM1 version weighs 60 tons -- 120,000 pounds

That means 60 lb/hp ratio -- not so good compared to a 370Z.

Yeah but the M1 has two guns whereas the Z has none. Did I also mention that the tank is a tank?

kenchan · 05-13-2015, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Push370zzz

Yeah but the M1 has two guns whereas the Z has none. Did I also mention that the tank is a tank?

im sure people have guns in their z's..

Asheth · 05-13-2015, 05:12 PM

I have always disliked these kind of posts because they only look at HP without consideration of target market or marketing. All those cars listed in the OP have a back seat and provide much more practicality than the Z. You can get more groceries, more kids, more chicks, and more passengers when you UBER in all those cars. That is just as big a selling point to the average customer as the HP. The Z provides very utility in comparison.

If someone is cross shopping that list and lets say the Z had as much HP as those mentioned if they have 2-3 kids the backseats will most really sway their decision.

Also as mentioned when the Z came out it's HP wasn't a crisis. It was designed to target the Cayman at the time.

There is no crisis the Z is a niche car and Nissan expects niche sales. This same kind of thinking comes from those that think Nissan should market said niche car with as many commercials as they give the Maxima and Altima. Now point me to the numbers that show how many manufacturers go on a full media blitz for their 2 door 2 seat sports cars. I have never seen tons of Chevy Corvette or Mazda Miata commercials.

Hollywood370 · 05-13-2015, 05:15 PM

If the Z worked for you when you bought it, and it works for you now - keep it and drive happy. If you prefer the Ford get one. Nissan only has to please Nissan owners.

kenchan · 05-13-2015, 05:19 PM

are u like a fortune cookie writer?

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-13-2015, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I would DD that long before any of the domestics on the list above

So would I. Wouldn't do any Dodge products except the Jeep Brand.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-13-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood370

If the Z worked for you when you bought it, and it works for you now - keep it and drive happy. If you prefer the Ford get one. Nissan only has to please Nissan owners.

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Originally Posted by kenchan

are u like a fortune cookie writer?

JARblue · 05-13-2015, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

The M1 / IPM1 version weighs 60 tons -- 120,000 pounds

That means 60 lb/hp ratio -- not so good compared to a 370Z.

But who cares about hp/weight ratio when I can just run over any street vehicle? Even if they try to run, I have a 105 mm L/52 M68 rifled gun (55 rounds) or 120 mm L/44 M256A1 smoothbore gun (40 or 42 rounds) depending on the tank model. Bye bye either way

Davey · 05-13-2015, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

But who cares about hp/weight ratio when I can just run over any street vehicle?

This is why I've always wanted a monster truck as a daily driver.

JARblue · 05-13-2015, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey

This is why I've always wanted a monster truck as a daily driver.

Although ... if I actually had one, I would probably be in a lot of trouble very quickly. Maybe it's better that I don't lol

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Asheth Track Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland Posts: 917 Drives: 09 Blk 6mt Rep Power: 18	I have always disliked these kind of posts because they only look at HP without consideration of target market or marketing. All those cars listed in the OP have a back seat and provide much more practicality than the Z. You can get more groceries, more kids, more chicks, and more passengers when you UBER in all those cars. That is just as big a selling point to the average customer as the HP. The Z provides very utility in comparison. If someone is cross shopping that list and lets say the Z had as much HP as those mentioned if they have 2-3 kids the backseats will most really sway their decision. Also as mentioned when the Z came out it's HP wasn't a crisis. It was designed to target the Cayman at the time. There is no crisis the Z is a niche car and Nissan expects niche sales. This same kind of thinking comes from those that think Nissan should market said niche car with as many commercials as they give the Maxima and Altima. Now point me to the numbers that show how many manufacturers go on a full media blitz for their 2 door 2 seat sports cars. I have never seen tons of Chevy Corvette or Mazda Miata commercials. jpkirk likes this. __________________ 180 customs Headlights - Yantech Backup Camera - Projekt 1 - Stillen Gen 3- EVO-R V2 Foglight, EVO-R CF Diffuser, Carbon Fiber Element Steering wheel - Fast Intentions TDX/RHFC's - RJM A.F.P. - Z1 Oil Cooler - 2015 Nismo Conversion.

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Firebase99 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: fl Posts: 1,372 Drives: 14 3.8 Gen Coupe GT Rep Power: 14034	I think the ONLY comparable car in its class on the market is the 3.8 Gen Coupe. 350hp 300 tq, RWD, back "seats" only an infant can fit in. Having owned both, the 370 is a FAR better sports car than the GC. Base 3.8 GC starts at like $27k. I got mine fully loaded with more bells and whistles Nissan can shake a stick it for $34K OTD. It's a HELL of powerful, relatively nimble "sports" car but a much better touring car.