Dealership jerking me around

370Zsteve · 10-21-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubaboy

but I'm sure whatever they say will be a lie. Most likely, the owner/manager drove it around for a month as is own car. I'd venture to guess, no matter how those 700 miles got on it, that they weren't the easiest 700 miles... I can only imagine it was 700 miles of 7500 rpms, tires squeeling, and 87 octane gas!!! (at least that's what would be going through my mind if I did get it)

Why are you dealing with someone who LIES to you? Cuba...where's the next-closest dealer, man?

I'm buying a Z in a couple of weeks. I'm ready to fly up to 1000 miles to pick it up if I find the one I want at the right price (Nice break-in if you ask me). It will not, repeat not have more than 20 miles on the odo. I'm not spending $36k on something that has been soiled by someone else.

kannibul · 10-21-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubaboy

They will drive it up to 250 miles from another dealership, from what they've told me. I asked about it, and they will not trailer it.

I know, right? I asked what in the world put 700 miles, but I'm sure whatever they say will be a lie. Most likely, the owner/manager drove it around for a month as is own car. I'd venture to guess, no matter how those 700 miles got on it, that they weren't the easiest 700 miles... I can only imagine it was 700 miles of 7500 rpms, tires squeeling, and 87 octane gas!!! (at least that's what would be going through my mind if I did get it)

Well, my dealership is just finding me options right now. They don't have any Z on the lot, so they are searching the entire area for matches on what I want. Another dealer has my exact car, but the owner isn't there until tomorrow...I'll find out how many miles that one has in the morning.

Meanwhile, go to another dealership. No reason you can't have them competing on the same car that "matches" your criteria.

370Zsteve · 10-21-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubaboy

Well, my dealership is just finding me options right now. They don't have any Z on the lot, so they are searching the entire area for matches on what I want. Another dealer has my exact car, but the owner isn't there until tomorrow...I'll find out how many miles that one has in the morning.

You do know you can check dealer inventories on http://www.nissanusa.com, right?

I think you'll find what you need somewhere else, no problem?

kannibul · 10-21-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Why are you dealing with someone who LIES to you? Cuba...where's the next-closest dealer, man?

I'm buying a Z in a couple of weeks. I'm ready to fly up to 1000 miles to pick it up if I find the one I want at the right price (Nice break-in if you ask me). It will not, repeat not have more than 20 miles on the odo. I'm not spending $36k on something that has been soiled by someone else.

Seriously, good luck with that.

Unless you're getting a 2010, you're not getting anything but the ones that were test-driven by tire-kickers or employees.

370Zsteve · 10-21-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

Seriously, good luck with that.

Unless you're getting a 2010, you're not getting anything but the ones that were test-driven by tire-kickers or employees.

I dunno about that. I've looked at six Z's in the past 3 weeks at different dealers. Not one of them had more than a few miles on the odo. Besides, the 1000-mile limit ends at Fusz Nissan.

Dealer demos are few and far between. Dealers don't have a fleet of test vehicles, Kannibul. The extended test drive I took was a demo driven by the owner's daughter. 5 other Z's on the lot were never driven at the dealership. Why would the dealer let them go out and rack up miles? Never gonna happen.

FuszNissan · 10-21-2009, 01:41 PM

I would return the Altima, and get your trade back. That way you are back in control. Let them keep looking, and you can keep looking around as well. This way if you find something you have the power to make another deal. Right now you don't, becuase they are holding on to your ticket to shop!

j.arnaldo · 10-21-2009, 02:43 PM

That's s-t-e-a-l-e-r-s-h-i-p, dude! Never sign anything unless you're 99.9% sure of what you're getting into. G'luck!

Pheonix · 10-21-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

They will trailer the car, not drive it...or, at least confirm that is what they are going to do.

Not necessarily, and maybe even then only if you put your foot down and demand it. A few weeks ago when I thought I'd found mine; it took a full day of back and forth to convince him to trailer the Z he'd found for me in, as opposed to putting 260 additional miles on it. There were other factors in, but all in all...we just couldn't come to an agreement on it.

kannibul · 10-21-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pheonix

Not necessarily, and maybe even then only if you put your foot down and demand it. A few weeks ago when I thought I'd found mine; it took a full day of back and forth to convince him to trailer the Z he'd found for me in, as opposed to putting 260 additional miles on it. There were other factors in, but all in all...we just couldn't come to an agreement on it.

Love the avatar pic....lol

That's be a deal-breaker for me. Either they trailer it or I walk. I'm not paying for a used, untitled car, short of them selling it to me at a used price.

I was unhappy about the 50 or so mine had on it. I wasn't concerned over my Civic having 252 miles on it, it was a 12K car. For 40K though...they should stick it in a covered trailer.

Pheonix · 10-21-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

Love the avatar pic....lol

That's be a deal-breaker for me. Either they trailer it or I walk. I'm not paying for a used, untitled car, short of them selling it to me at a used price.

I was unhappy about the 50 or so mine had on it. I wasn't concerned over my Civic having 252 miles on it, it was a 12K car. For 40K though...they should stick it in a covered trailer.

Precisely so. Trailer it or truck it, or no deal. Anything at all can happen on the road; the mileage is the least of it. And thanks; I saw it and just LOL'ed.

MeetJoeAsian · 10-21-2009, 04:28 PM

The vehicle the other dealership has with 700 miles could have been a demo or a vehicle they sold and came back (as in, the dealership couldn't get them approved for a loan, so the customer had to bring the car back)...in either case, unless if they're willing to give you a steal for that vehicle (which they won't because the car doesn't belong to them in the first place), then I wouldn't purchase a brand new high performance sports car with that many miles...

what I would do in your case, since the contract that you signed really has no value, is take your trade back, and go shop elsewhere....I would rather drive a little distance, and then purchase a vehicle elsewhere and drive it back and break it in at the same time...

I think I'm giving away enough car dealership secrets, so I'll stop now...hehehe

370Zsteve · 10-21-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pheonix

Not necessarily, and maybe even then only if you put your foot down and demand it. A few weeks ago when I thought I'd found mine; it took a full day of back and forth to convince him to trailer the Z he'd found for me in, as opposed to putting 260 additional miles on it. There were other factors in, but all in all...we just couldn't come to an agreement on it.

nice avatar

whatever the hell it is lmao

Pheonix · 10-21-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

nice avatar

whatever the hell it is lmao

elmz · 10-21-2009, 05:02 PM

When it comes down to the paper works and contract it should specifically show what you are getting I.E. exact car with VIN# on the contract. So regardless of color, the contract reflects the exact item(vehicle) you are purchasing. If they do not deliver exactly what is on the contract than it is void. I'm not a lawyer or car salesman by any means, but I've always purchased new cars and that is how my transactions have always turned out. Good luck.

EDIT: You should be able to get something for free here if you ask nicely =) illuminated kick plates maybe things like that. But you also have the right to be angry. I would opt for a calm resolution if I were you, you have a better chance of getting what you want if you ask nicely.

Red370 · 10-21-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pheonix

lol, imperial walkers in the process of breeding i believe...

10-21-2009, 01:41 PM	#36 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	I would return the Altima, and get your trade back. That way you are back in control. Let them keep looking, and you can keep looking around as well. This way if you find something you have the power to make another deal. Right now you don't, becuase they are holding on to your ticket to shop! __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

10-21-2009, 04:28 PM	#41 (permalink)
MeetJoeAsian Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 342 Drives: 350Z to G35c to 370Z Rep Power: 16	The vehicle the other dealership has with 700 miles could have been a demo or a vehicle they sold and came back (as in, the dealership couldn't get them approved for a loan, so the customer had to bring the car back)...in either case, unless if they're willing to give you a steal for that vehicle (which they won't because the car doesn't belong to them in the first place), then I wouldn't purchase a brand new high performance sports car with that many miles... what I would do in your case, since the contract that you signed really has no value, is take your trade back, and go shop elsewhere....I would rather drive a little distance, and then purchase a vehicle elsewhere and drive it back and break it in at the same time... I think I'm giving away enough car dealership secrets, so I'll stop now...hehehe __________________ http://facebook.com/meetjoeasian

10-21-2009, 05:02 PM	#44 (permalink)
elmz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 674 Drives: 2014 Porsche Boxster Rep Power: 17	When it comes down to the paper works and contract it should specifically show what you are getting I.E. exact car with VIN# on the contract. So regardless of color, the contract reflects the exact item(vehicle) you are purchasing. If they do not deliver exactly what is on the contract than it is void. I'm not a lawyer or car salesman by any means, but I've always purchased new cars and that is how my transactions have always turned out. Good luck. EDIT: You should be able to get something for free here if you ask nicely =) illuminated kick plates maybe things like that. But you also have the right to be angry. I would opt for a calm resolution if I were you, you have a better chance of getting what you want if you ask nicely. Last edited by elmz; 10-21-2009 at 05:05 PM.

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10-21-2009, 02:43 PM	#37 (permalink)
j.arnaldo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 937 Drives: Nissan 350Z, 2004 Rep Power: 0	That's s-t-e-a-l-e-r-s-h-i-p, dude! Never sign anything unless you're 99.9% sure of what you're getting into. G'luck!