shifting from 2nd in stand still - bad idea?

darkphantom · 05-04-2015, 11:00 AM

Hey guys, looking for some consensus here if it is really a bad idea to shift from 2nd gear while at a standstill (red light or stop sign or whatever).

I ask this as it makes it smoother for the passenger when they are in the car. I just didn't know if there would be any damage down the road if I did this every so often?

I know other cars usually bog down a bit if you try to roll off in seond gear but the Z seems to be fine.

Thanks in advanced!

p.s. May the 4th be with you! (Star wars reference)

kenchan · 05-04-2015, 11:07 AM

bad idea. just rev your engine to 2000rpm and engage 1st while you count to 3.

basically catch a glimpse of your tach when the needle is horizontal, then engage 1st while you count ichi ni san

hope u get the lame joke at end

onzedge · 05-05-2015, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

bad idea. just rev your engine to 2000rpm and engage 1st while you count to 3.

basically catch a glimpse of your tach when the needle is horizontal, then engage 1st while you count ichi ni san

hope u get the lame joke at end

GaleForce · 05-04-2015, 11:45 AM

To add to that, heavy launching from second gear is no bueno. Ask forum member Mitch about that.

kenchan · 05-04-2015, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaleForce

To add to that, heavy launching from second gear is no bueno. Ask forum member Mitch about that.

MITCH~~!!

vtec to vvel · 05-04-2015, 12:33 PM

bad idea. this will put unnecessary load/strain on the engine.

and the Z has one of the more smoother 1st to 2nd gear changes....perhaps you're letting off the clutch to early?

jpkirk · 05-05-2015, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

bad idea. this will put unnecessary load/strain on the engine.

and the Z has one of the more smoother 1st to 2nd gear changes....perhaps you're letting off the clutch to early?

kenchan · 05-05-2015, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpkirk

i think he drove a bus or something before?

MagmaRed370z · 05-04-2015, 12:41 PM

1st and 2nd gear are a bitch. Practice makes perfect.

mikem2104 · 05-04-2015, 12:57 PM

Sure is, take your time on releasing the clutch. Unless you're driving hard the clutch likes a little more time

kenchan · 05-04-2015, 12:59 PM

ichi ni san

Leingod · 05-04-2015, 01:02 PM

The only time starting from 2nd should be warranted is when you're trying to get a better start from snow.

kenchan · 05-04-2015, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leingod

The only time starting from 2nd should be warranted is when you're trying to get a better start from snow.

only applies to HEK.

DavidZ370 · 05-04-2015, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

only applies to HEK.

HEK+Z=Poor Z

Davey · 05-04-2015, 01:12 PM

From a standing start it's harder on the clutch. It would be harder on the motor but I don't think these modern with electronic throttle engines really lug the way old ones do, but still, probably best to avoid it.

Rolling start, say 5 mph, 2nd gear is no problem. Of course, you'll get a ticket for that, so don't.

The 1st to 2nd shift in this car is a little trickier than most; the approach required varies depending on how fast you're accelerating, and what RPM you shift at. Usually that's a problem only when shifting at higher RPM; the Z is actually very easy to shift from 1st to 2nd at higher RPM, but a little trickier in the more typical 2500 - 3,000 RPM range.

05-04-2015, 11:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
darkphantom Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 425 Drives: 13 Z34 PW M6 Rep Power: 244	shifting from 2nd in stand still - bad idea? Hey guys, looking for some consensus here if it is really a bad idea to shift from 2nd gear while at a standstill (red light or stop sign or whatever). I ask this as it makes it smoother for the passenger when they are in the car. I just didn't know if there would be any damage down the road if I did this every so often? I know other cars usually bog down a bit if you try to roll off in seond gear but the Z seems to be fine. Thanks in advanced! p.s. May the 4th be with you! (Star wars reference)

05-04-2015, 11:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	bad idea. just rev your engine to 2000rpm and engage 1st while you count to 3. basically catch a glimpse of your tach when the needle is horizontal, then engage 1st while you count ichi ni san hope u get the lame joke at end UNKNOWN_370, onzedge, alcheng and 5 others like this.

05-04-2015, 11:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
GaleForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 21,749 Drives: Varis Arising II Rep Power: 51865	To add to that, heavy launching from second gear is no bueno. Ask forum member Mitch about that. TerribleONE and kenchan like this. __________________ >>>GaleForce's Build<<< >>>FaceBook @3GsCustoms<<<>>>Instagram @GaleForce370z<<< Varis Kamikaze-Z

05-04-2015, 12:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
MagmaRed370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: USA Posts: 1,468 Drives: 14' 370z Sport Magma Rep Power: 13	1st and 2nd gear are a bitch. Practice makes perfect. jpkirk, carlitos_370z, ajm216 and 1 others like this.

05-04-2015, 12:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
mikem2104 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Windsor, ON, Canada Posts: 25 Drives: 13 370Z 6MT SportNav Rep Power: 12	Sure is, take your time on releasing the clutch. Unless you're driving hard the clutch likes a little more time birdman71 likes this. __________________ Mike 13 370z Magnetic Black Sport Pkg 07 Saab 9-7x

05-04-2015, 12:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
vtec to vvel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: 813 Posts: 3,970 Drives: 13 Z Rep Power: 502910	bad idea. this will put unnecessary load/strain on the engine. and the Z has one of the more smoother 1st to 2nd gear changes....perhaps you're letting off the clutch to early?

05-04-2015, 12:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	ichi ni san jpkirk and Zbrah like this.

05-04-2015, 01:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
Leingod A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Some Place Cold Posts: 16,060 Drives: In Circles Rep Power: 2684397	The only time starting from 2nd should be warranted is when you're trying to get a better start from snow. __________________ I AM FLOOF! SOMEBODY FLOOF MY HORN!! ALL HAIL THE FLOOF!!I JUST FLOOFED ON THE FLOOR

05-04-2015, 01:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
Davey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,766 Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT Rep Power: 117172	From a standing start it's harder on the clutch. It would be harder on the motor but I don't think these modern with electronic throttle engines really lug the way old ones do, but still, probably best to avoid it. Rolling start, say 5 mph, 2nd gear is no problem. Of course, you'll get a ticket for that, so don't. The 1st to 2nd shift in this car is a little trickier than most; the approach required varies depending on how fast you're accelerating, and what RPM you shift at. Usually that's a problem only when shifting at higher RPM; the Z is actually very easy to shift from 1st to 2nd at higher RPM, but a little trickier in the more typical 2500 - 3,000 RPM range. ajm216 and lfrz93 like this.

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