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shifting from 2nd in stand still - bad idea?

Hey guys, looking for some consensus here if it is really a bad idea to shift from 2nd gear while at a standstill (red light or stop sign or whatever).

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Old 05-04-2015, 12:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys, looking for some consensus here if it is really a bad idea to shift from 2nd gear while at a standstill (red light or stop sign or whatever).

I ask this as it makes it smoother for the passenger when they are in the car. I just didn't know if there would be any damage down the road if I did this every so often?

I know other cars usually bog down a bit if you try to roll off in seond gear but the Z seems to be fine.

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bad idea. just rev your engine to 2000rpm and engage 1st while you count to 3.

basically catch a glimpse of your tach when the needle is horizontal, then engage 1st while you count ichi ni san

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To add to that, heavy launching from second gear is no bueno. Ask forum member Mitch about that.
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To add to that, heavy launching from second gear is no bueno. Ask forum member Mitch about that.


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bad idea. this will put unnecessary load/strain on the engine.

and the Z has one of the more smoother 1st to 2nd gear changes....perhaps you're letting off the clutch to early?
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1st and 2nd gear are a bitch. Practice makes perfect.
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Sure is, take your time on releasing the clutch. Unless you're driving hard the clutch likes a little more time
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The only time starting from 2nd should be warranted is when you're trying to get a better start from snow.
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The only time starting from 2nd should be warranted is when you're trying to get a better start from snow.
only applies to HEK.
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only applies to HEK.
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From a standing start it's harder on the clutch. It would be harder on the motor but I don't think these modern with electronic throttle engines really lug the way old ones do, but still, probably best to avoid it.

Rolling start, say 5 mph, 2nd gear is no problem. Of course, you'll get a ticket for that, so don't.

The 1st to 2nd shift in this car is a little trickier than most; the approach required varies depending on how fast you're accelerating, and what RPM you shift at. Usually that's a problem only when shifting at higher RPM; the Z is actually very easy to shift from 1st to 2nd at higher RPM, but a little trickier in the more typical 2500 - 3,000 RPM range.
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the peaky latent throttle response dont help newbs either.

i drive my Z then drive my G, wow so butterly smooth (one of the key reasons why i still have my G35C... beautiful and smooth).
i drive my Z then my fit, wow where the f- is 6th gear?!
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the peaky latent throttle response dont help newbs either.

i drive my Z then drive my G, wow so butterly smooth (one of the key reasons why i still have my G35C... beautiful and smooth).
i drive my Z then my fit, wow where the f- is 6th gear?!
A Fit has 6 gears? 0_o wait... you can get a Fit in a M/T?!?!?!

My Civic's clutch is so light that I hulk smash it through the wheel wells every time I am forced to take that pathetic excuse of a car out onto the roads. Then again, i've had to start it in 2nd gear when we have 8+ inches of snow just HOPING everything would explode so I could collect insurance and be happy in life.
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A Fit has 6 gears? 0_o wait... you can get a Fit in a M/T?!?!?!

My Civic's clutch is so light that I hulk smash it through the wheel wells every time I am forced to take that pathetic excuse of a car out onto the roads. Then again, i've had to start it in 2nd gear when we have 8+ inches of snow just HOPING everything would explode so I could collect insurance and be happy in life.
yah, the current gen fits have 6 gears, but mine is a '12 so only has 5 gears.
i dont mind the light clutch on honda's and the gear box. they feel great to me.
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