shifting from 2nd in stand still - bad idea?

kenchan

the peaky latent throttle response dont help newbs either.

i drive my Z then drive my G, wow so butterly smooth (one of the key reasons why i still have my G35C... beautiful and smooth).
i drive my Z then my fit, wow where the f- is 6th gear?!

Leingod

A Fit has 6 gears? 0_o wait... you can get a Fit in a M/T?!?!?!

My Civic's clutch is so light that I hulk smash it through the wheel wells every time I am forced to take that pathetic excuse of a car out onto the roads. Then again, i've had to start it in 2nd gear when we have 8+ inches of snow just HOPING everything would explode so I could collect insurance and be happy in life.

__________________
I AM FLOOF! SOMEBODY FLOOF MY HORN!! ALL HAIL THE FLOOF!!I JUST FLOOFED ON THE FLOOR

kenchan

yah, the current gen fits have 6 gears, but mine is a '12 so only has 5 gears.
i dont mind the light clutch on honda's and the gear box. they feel great to me.
easy to go fast.

MagmaRed370z

Why do you hate your Civic so much? Might as well sell it!

kenchan

yah really. the fit is pretty cool. it can carry my Z's wheels to the tire store with no fuss. and the gearbox is very smooth.

but it does grind in 3rd on cooler days.. a honda thing.

Leingod

Leased....And I cry every day I think about it

I'll trade you my bathtub on wheels for your box on wheels

__________________
I AM FLOOF! SOMEBODY FLOOF MY HORN!! ALL HAIL THE FLOOF!!I JUST FLOOFED ON THE FLOOR

Davey

Yeah Honda tends to have really easy effort shifting and clutch and they use an anti-dump valve to where you can pretty much just let the clutch up and it won't grab too fast. Makes anyone look like a stick shift pro.

Davey

I don't heel/toe on the street.

Much.

birdman71

Or unless you have a hard clutch. Push up to a stage 3, 4 or 5 clutch and you wont be able to do anything but start in first gear and you will have to learn how to be super sensitive about the so called "sweet spot" of the clutch. That's to where you can shift without any jerkiness like how this thread started. Just gotta find the sweet spot on the clutch although harder to locate when you go up in stages.
I went from a stock ford ranger clutch in my truck to a SPEC stage 3 clutch in my z and was a completely different ball game. It would be like going from peewee sports to Division 1 college sports .

Although once you have a durable clutch and know how to shift entirely, then you can learn to power shift, although that would go the complete opposite direction on jerkiness than this thread started originally.

__________________

Birdman's Build:
Powerhouse Amuse/ Nismo/ Eibach/ ACT/ Tommy Kaira/ Avant Garde/ Fast Intentions/ Project Kics/ Fly 1 Motorsports/ EVO-R/ Z1 Motorsports/ Weber Sports/ Zoom/ Zele Japan

Nick M

You have to be careful with aggressive, high friction clutches. You can do a number on the syncros in the Z's transmission with unnecessarily rough engaging high pressure clutches. Its entirely unnecessary in a Z that sees daily use around town, unless it sees regular track use with high heat (HPDE, etc).

From your mod list, you dont have anything that requires such a clutch w 20% plus additional torque capacity. No supercharger, no turbo etc. A stage 1, or an OEM clutch would have been fine.

I used to bracket drag race hondas, and did NASA HPDE track events with first a WRX and then a prepped Civic hatchback, and never had an instructor go over "power shifting". The last mention I heard of power shifting was in Fast and Furious 1.

I think modifications are supposed to be a package deal, and in synergy. For example I wouldnt upgrade my clutch, without first upgrading my clutch pedal to the RJM unit, and getting the Z1 transmission mount.

The RJM clutch pedal actually elimates all of the touchy-ness of the OEM Z/G clutch and makes it feel much more smooth with effortless engagement. Like most high-end manual transmissions are.

__________________
| 2015 Nismo headlights| 275/305 | Z1 spacers | Eibach Pro-kit |k&n typhoons | AAM S-Line catback + FI test pipes | Stillen splitter |

DOOMMONKEY777

You will wear out ur clutch much quicker, and since ur holding clutch down longer than usual while getting up to speed u also will wear down ur csc and that thing will go quicker than clutch. The engine is fine.

__________________
Kids don't do Drugs, Drugs are bad, so let the professional druggies do Drugs for you. 537whp/496lb/tq@8-9PSI 93 octane

darkphantom

Thanks for all the responses guys! Unfortunately I won't be doing any shifting till the car gets out of the shop...

alcheng

you have the Z 24/7/365, practice til you can engage 1st gear smoothly

kenchan

darkphantom

Oh, I engaged smoothly but I felt like I was "granny shifting" is all