Cross shopping other cars with the Z?

kenchan

isnt golf-r like a family station wagon?

yah, i want to drive family station wagon now! never mind minivans

Dwnshift

I just picked up a '15 S3 ...
I disagree w the VW comments.




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darkphantom

I wonder how many people commenting have even sat in or let alone driven a German car?


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Frankly, I don't care about what people think about - I will be spending most of the time inside the car and the Golf R is a decent looking hatch back - not as sexy as the Z, I will agree!

I guess I really need to figure out if I care about not having the syncro rev match and the fact that I will need to spend a decent amount to mod the car and get some good hp out of it.

The Z will definitely be faster stock vs stock.

kenchan

then why post here to ask for people's opinions? go get your family station wagon and family-on

darkphantom

Because I would like to see others' thought patterns and what they cross-shopped, hence the title

BC416

I crossed shopped 335i's and 2011+ Mustang GTs with my Z.

I quickly moved away from the 335i after reading up on used turbo BMWs.
The Ford is a great performer but I couldn't shake the fact that it's a Mustang and I see about 30 on my 25 minute drive to work.

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Disp

I worked in sales at a VW/Nissan dealership for about 3 years until about 2006. VW's have awesome interiors and gadgets, but they were constantly getting serviced. They seemed to have tons of problems problems with electronics breaking. Overall they're very nice on the interior and the powertrain is pretty solid, but you're probably gonna spend a lot of time getting little stuff fixed.

Duc_Z09

Same here. If all I cared about was going fast relatively cheap, I'd have a blown 5.0. That car can move!

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Tigger

2006 Porsche Cayman S

Davey

There is no cross-shopping with the Z. There is only faster + heavier, slower + lighter, or faster + lighter + more expensive.

darkphantom

@Tigger, I am not sure about the reliability/maintenance on porsches - are they anything like BMWs or Mercedes? I've heard they are the best when it comes to German reliability, though.

Tigger

Always get the service warranty. Always. On ANY used German car. They do break. High-end types need more in the way of general servicing because they are more finicky and temperamental. The return is the driving experience and joy you get from owning one... Headaches included.

I'm not saying anything about reliability. It would cost me $27k to replace the motor in my 911 if I didn't have a warranty to cover it. You can get a 2006-2007 Cayman S for around $24-27k. Buy the best warranty you can (~4-6k) and drive the piss out of it.

ayrton88

As a former BMW and Volkswagen owner, I will say the German engineering and reliability don't even belong in the same sentence. I put German reliabilty even lower than a domestic car. Don't get me started. I can't speak for Porsche, but a friend of mine just replaced the wiper blades on his Cayman and couldn't believe they cost over $100.

Duc_Z09

Where do people get this idea that German cars are somehow mechanically better than insert any random manufacturer here? All cars have problems. Aren't BMW's getting a reputation for drinking oil?

Yes, I've sat in/driven many BMW and Mercedes cars; they're OK but nothing special, certainly not worth the ***-ton of money they charge solely for the right to say you drive one. Try working on one sometime and after you buy your brand-specific tool sets and overpriced specialty parts, tell me how much better they are than everything else.

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darkphantom

Working on one is definitely a b!tch but any modern luxury sports car has excessive panels I guess.

Im going to test drive this Used 2012 Volkswagen Golf R For Sale | Austin TX
today and i'll come back to decide which I want.

A friend of mine just got a 370z and he says he loves it but it is quite harsh and not exactly a good DD with the sport package.