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Old 04-18-2015, 04:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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You have to understand that the general populace doesn't care AT ALL about what they drive. It's a totally different mentality between us who care about every aspect of our cars, and the soccer moms that drive Yukons all day doing 95mph. Yes, you're going to piss people off. Just remember that those people are in a hurry to get another mocha frappeciano with sprinkles. If you have another fellow car enthusiast behind you, he/she will be fully understanding of the agony you go through each time you find a dip in the road and need to crawl at 5mph.

My advice. Drink a mocha frappeciano with sprinkles while going 5mph over a dip.
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So my Z is lowered and my FI Exhaust Cans, im literally as low as you can go without being slammed.

This morning its beautiful out, so I go for a drive. Here in NY we had an awful winter, and the roads are just shot, total warzone.

Im not an idiot so when im on a road im not going to slam on my breaks but rather avoid the large potholes and debris.

Whenever I have to make a turn onto an uneven surface, like a parking lot/driveway/or even some streets I have to go slowly or I will scrape the cans, and front chin like crazy.

Today only two people honked at me while giving me the middle finger and cursing out their window, which is not too bad. Normally its a lot more.

Im not trying to be a ****, ****. Im just trying to not destroy my beautiful car. So sorry for taking 10 more seconds out of your extremely important day.

And no, getting as close to my rear bumper as physically possible is not going to make my car go any faster, and no I dont need a push...thanks anyway.
I have to disagree with this whole argument. If you're being a selfish **** by taking up the whole road and inconveniencing others, no matter the degree. You're a d!ck. You're no better than the bimmer owners or the 4x4 pickup owners who seem to get so much flak on these forums for the same ****. If you are consciously slowing down traffic without due regard to others on the road then you're just being a self entitled SOB and I'm ashamed to share the community as you lot.

Now I care about my car and I'll do what I can to avoid damaging it, but I also do so in a way where I'm not inconveniencing others. I've also been on the other end of someone slowing to 5mph to go through a dip when coming off the highway. Not only do people miss the turn signal because of these dicks (even if you're not in a hurry, everyone has felt the frustration of missing one due to the incompetence of another driver), they're also causing an unsafe scenario by purposely going slower than the speed of normal traffic. So no, the behavior is not justified just because your car is precious to you. A little empathy for your fellow driver goes a long way. These are not your private road ways.
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I have to disagree with this whole argument. If you're being a selfish **** by taking up the whole road and inconveniencing others, no matter the degree. You're a d!ck. You're no better than the bimmer owners or the 4x4 pickup owners who seem to get so much flak on these forums for the same ****. If you are consciously slowing down traffic without due regard to others on the road then you're just being a self entitled SOB and I'm ashamed to share the community as you lot.

Now I care about my car and I'll do what I can to avoid damaging it, but I also do so in a way where I'm not inconveniencing others. I've also been on the other end of someone slowing to 5mph to go through a dip when coming off the highway. Not only do people miss the turn signal because of these dicks (even if you're not in a hurry, everyone has felt the frustration of missing one due to the incompetence of another driver), they're also causing an unsafe scenario by purposely going slower than the speed of normal traffic. So no, the behavior is not justified just because your car is precious to you. A little empathy for your fellow driver goes a long way. These are not your private road ways.
Not sure if you are directing those insults at me, I sure hope not. The worst way to drive is frustrated, so if you get behind the wheel and are upset over missing a turn signal or green light, maybe you need some therapy, or a less stressful job. Either way, not entirely sure what the issue is. I will do <5 turning off a four lane street (two going in my direction) when anyone can just as easily get around me, but choose to ram their car up my cars bumper while cursing, honking, and flipping me off.
Not sure what people have done to you in the past, but what I'm describing is hardly that...and yes, you will wait for my car to turn or progress at poorly paved intersections, potholes, uneven shopping mall entrances, speed bumps...At some of these places I even do this in my other cars (DD)because the roads are in such bad condition, but I care that I don't destroy my cars...others may not, but they are not MY problem...If the road is in good shape, no way I'm slowing down in the Z
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I have to disagree with this whole argument. If you're being a selfish **** by taking up the whole road and inconveniencing others, no matter the degree. You're a d!ck. You're no better than the bimmer owners or the 4x4 pickup owners who seem to get so much flak on these forums for the same ****. If you are consciously slowing down traffic without due regard to others on the road then you're just being a self entitled SOB and I'm ashamed to share the community as you lot.

Now I care about my car and I'll do what I can to avoid damaging it, but I also do so in a way where I'm not inconveniencing others. I've also been on the other end of someone slowing to 5mph to go through a dip when coming off the highway. Not only do people miss the turn signal because of these dicks (even if you're not in a hurry, everyone has felt the frustration of missing one due to the incompetence of another driver), they're also causing an unsafe scenario by purposely going slower than the speed of normal traffic. So no, the behavior is not justified just because your car is precious to you. A little empathy for your fellow driver goes a long way. These are not your private road ways.
I have to agree with this to a large extent. If your car is too low to be practical as a DD and that's how you're using it, then maybe you're being a little disrespectful to the other drivers around you. My car is stock height with no chance off going lower while it's my DD. Too painful and inconvenient.

That being said, even at stock height I encounter plenty of driveways that require a 45 degree approach at near idle speed just to avoid scraping horribly. But I can't say I've ever had someone honk at me for it. OP is in NY, and from everything I've experienced getting honked at is a regular occurrence for driving there
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I have to agree with this to a large extent. If your car is too low to be practical as a DD and that's how you're using it, then maybe you're being a little disrespectful to the other drivers around you. My car is stock height with no chance off going lower while it's my DD. Too painful and inconvenient.

That being said, even at stock height I encounter plenty of driveways that require a 45 degree approach at near idle speed just to avoid scraping horribly. But I can't say I've ever had someone honk at me for it. OP is in NY, and from everything I've experienced getting honked at is a regular occurrence for driving there
I live on long island, the world of spoiled brats, so getting cursed at for going 70 in a 55 is commonplace... My Z is not my daily driver, It really has little to do with me, as people here would rather honk, and try and bump me out of the way, than go into another lane of traffic thats clear to just pass me. I used to live up north, this was never a problem...people even moved out of the left lane to let you pass without any problem!
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I live on long island, the world of spoiled brats, so getting cursed at for going 70 in a 55 is commonplace... My Z is not my daily driver, It really has little to do with me, as people here would rather honk, and try and bump me out of the way, than go into another lane of traffic thats clear to just pass me. I used to live up north, this was never a problem...people even moved out of the left lane to let you pass without any problem!
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At least it's not a daily occurrence. Maybe try putting on your blinker and then switching to your hazards as you really slow down to start the turn. I might get dash/rear cams for evidence against anyone who might chose to "bump" you out of the way.
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I have to disagree with this whole argument. If you're being a selfish **** by taking up the whole road and inconveniencing others, no matter the degree. You're a d!ck. You're no better than the bimmer owners or the 4x4 pickup owners who seem to get so much flak on these forums for the same ****. If you are consciously slowing down traffic without due regard to others on the road then you're just being a self entitled SOB and I'm ashamed to share the community as you lot.

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Now I care about my car and I'll do what I can to avoid damaging it, but I also do so in a way where I'm not inconveniencing others. I've also been on the other end of someone slowing to 5mph to go through a dip when coming off the highway. Not only do people miss the turn signal because of these dicks (even if you're not in a hurry, everyone has felt the frustration of missing one due to the incompetence of another driver), they're also causing an unsafe scenario by purposely going slower than the speed of normal traffic. So no, the behavior is not justified just because your car is precious to you. A little empathy for your fellow driver goes a long way. These are not your private road ways.


I agree on a lot of what you said. My old M3 used to be low but it was not low enough to where i had to go 3mph through dips, nor did i have to angle my car and slowly crawl up driveways/parking lots to the point where it was inconvenient for people behind me. Yes i slowed down but it wasn't always needed and when it was needed i went as fast as i could. If there was a bad street i would take another route but that was if the street had unusually tall speed bumps. For the sake of people behind me and not destroying my car i never went lower.

The problem is that some of the "slammed" and or "hellaflush" folks are begging for attention, good or bad, they seem to bask in it. And those are the inconsiderate types, it's true that some get an air suspension which solves the problem but a lot of the hellaflush ricers don't have an air suspension and they do not seem to mind coming to a full stop and then reversing and repositioning their car if they begin to scrape, they don't seem to mind coming to a full stop around speed bumps and either doing a 180 or trying to strategically position their car as to avoid scrapping.


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totally agree with the overall sentiment Penguin, but the OPs car actually doesnt look to be super low, fwiw.
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Why would you ever, ever lower ur car in NY? Pot holes is the reason why i am at stock height. Dude it might look kool, but its not useful at all, in ny at least. Plus you cant enjoy the real feel of the car.

U remind me of the hellaflush lowrider i saw on FDR few month back, not only that he was driving slow it looked like a tub boat in a hurricane storm on those pot holes.

P.S. dont ever ever take the FDR even if ur in a hummer.
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Why would you ever, ever lower ur car in NY? Pot holes is the reason why i am at stock height. Dude it might look kool, but its not useful at all, in ny at least. Plus you cant enjoy the real feel of the car.

U remind me of the hellaflush lowrider i saw on FDR few month back, not only that he was driving slow it looked like a tub boat in a hurricane storm on those pot holes.

P.S. dont ever ever take the FDR even if ur in a hummer.

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So I presume with your logic, you would say that the person in the wheelchair in the crosswalk would be selfish for holding up traffic? As a human being, I can wait the extra 30 seconds for them to safely cross, rather than being traumatized about witnessing that person being possibly struck and killed by another driver that couldn't "accommodate" them.
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So I presume with your logic, you would say that the person in the wheelchair in the crosswalk would be selfish for holding up traffic?
Is the person in the wheelchair going slow because they CHOSE to make their mode of transportation require special treatment relative to everyone else?
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