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Originally Posted by Zero dark Jesus christ i did not expect full hood and fender to be so high. Called a local guy he seemed very good at the job.

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Old 04-09-2015, 07:02 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Jesus christ i did not expect full hood and fender to be so high. Called a local guy he seemed very good at the job. Laser cut film. Full hood fenders headlights bumper mirror and part of side doors, $1790. Free claybar detail! Lmao
Then you don't want to know what I paid for Xpel and C-Quartz.

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Just splurge and get the whole hood, thank us later. You're welcome.

Oh, and ask for proof that it's the brand he says it is. He may say it's XPEL or Suntek but he's really giving you 3M Ventureshield. Let him show you the box the film comes in, or some documentation showing what brand it is. I've had that happen in the past with tint saying it was what I was buying but really it was a lower quality tint, he still charged the higher price. All film and tint looks the same, so you should be shown it is what he says it is.

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if you're having a shop install it, makes sure they use the rolls, not pre-cut.

i mentioned this many times, but precut is for hobbists like me that install them at home.
The guy who did my Xpel would disagree with you on that. With film on rolls you still have to deal with every corner where it can't be wrapped properly and has to be cut. (like the 'pointy' corners on the trailing edges of the hood) The cuts are already there on the precuts and they are perfect. Xpel did their homework. This isn't my opinion, this is what he told me.
He was also surprised to find that the 370 is just about the only car he was able to get a precut for EVERY panel on the car if you wanted. (Xpel)

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You could just have the whole front end repainted cheaper than that. Are people really paying $1500+ for a clear bra?
I think the partial dilemma with repainting is the care 30-90 day care depending on who you ask.
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Exactly why I haven't done it yet. There is also a small chance of the clear bra pulling off the factory paint when you go to remove it.
I would have to disagree with you. I have had to replace both my entire front bumper film and my right front quarter panel film (not at the same time) because they did their job. Something came up, hit the film, tore a hole in it and it had to be replaced.

In both instances, I went to the same place that installed it and I got the car back better than before with new film.

Keep in mind that with painting, it costs A LOT more than just taking off and replacing film. Plus it takes 2-3 days for it to fully dry then put it back on, and guess what, the moment you drive your car with the new paint, it's immediately exposed to more rock chips.

At least with film, it doesn't chip, it doesn't show anything that hits it unless it's big enough to rip a hole in it.

Bolded for emphasis...

PPF doesn't scratch, or chip, or crack, the only reason to take it off is if something big enough cuts a hole in it. The material used is practically the same stuff you'd put on your cell phone's screen to protect it, for the same reasons. Film might seem like it costs a lot, but iI'd rather pay ~$400 to replace the film on the front bumper and get the car back the same day than go through painting.

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Since this might be of value to someone, and since I'm not one of those people that remain secretive about money and things, here's full disclosure.

I had Xpel (cut by my detailer in house off bulk rolls using Xpel computer templates) installed on the front bumper, (two pieces) headlamp lenses, full hood, A pillars, mirrors (two pieces each side) both front fenders, both rocker panels and a strip behind the rear wheel wells.
The car was completely color corrected and prepped front to back beforehand. Wheels off as well. I had owned the car just over a month and had not waxed it. I think I had only washed it twice at that point. It has not seen rain since September.
Anything that didn't get covered in Xpel Ultimate got C-Quartz Finest. I had the Sport 19" wheels C-Quartzed entirely as well including the barrels.
I was able to get it wet after 24 hours, but was not to wash it for 2 weeks. (IIRC) I left it a month before I washed it.
I paid $2500 CDN taxes in. (about $2100 USD approx. today)
I had a quote from a US detail shop in WA state and they were substantially higher in US dollars. It was going to be in the neighbourhood of $4000 CDN in the end. (Opti Coat substituted for C-Quartz however)
The only issue I had to face was, could the guy up here do the job, or was I going to have to have the WA guys repair a botched job?
I was assured multiple times that he was up to the task, took my chances and I'm real happy with the results.




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Plus it takes 2-3 days for it to fully dry

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I had a rocker panel re-painted where the dealer had scraped it before I took delivery. I was told to wait a MONTH before doing anything, wax, film or otherwise.

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I had a rocker panel re-painted where the dealer had scraped it before I took delivery. I was told to wait a MONTH before doing anything, wax, film or otherwise.

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Well yea to be safe because it can still be damaged if you do anything, but I was saying as far as just drying to the touch fully, a good couple of days is required.
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I had some light to moderate damage to my front bumper from track usage and asked for a repair quote from Carsmetics. Humorously, to take off the bumper, repair the damage in about 6 places, re-paint and re-clearcoat was going to be around $350. But to replace the clearbra I have on the bumper (just the bumper) was quoted at $490. The repair shop couldn't believe the cost. I decided it wasn't worth it since I would obviously lose the clearbra during the repairs and would definitely need to replace it after the repairs, more than doubling the total cost.
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Jesus christ i did not expect full hood and fender to be so high. Called a local guy he seemed very good at the job. Laser cut film. Full hood fenders headlights bumper mirror and part of side doors, $1790. Free claybar detail! Lmao
Who did you call? Was it Rob out in Ellicott City?
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You're not that far off. I have a Subaru BRZ and the full hood alone was $800. Full front bumper was about $400. Full front quarter panels were about $200 each. $1600 to cover the entire car in front of the doors and windshield. Still worth it! I got a bit of a discount overall because I also got my full sides and rear bumper done too. I paid about $2800 for the entire car except the roof and trunk lid.

And again, find out what product he's using and have him prove it is what he says it is. If he charges you that much, make sure its EXPEL or Suntek.

Any 3M product at that price is too much. Also he should cut it himself with a machine or custom cut it, if he buys it pre-cut, it won't protect as much area because they leave a margin for error in installing and the gaps are bigger. If you're paying that much to protect your car, it better cover everything.

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800$ for the hood? Really? My seibon vs11 hood was only 800 and some change shipped. That's crazy
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Exactly why I haven't done it yet. There is also a small chance of the clear bra pulling off the factory paint when you go to remove it.
for me its the hassle of taking my car to the bodyshop, risk car getting f-ked around by dumbarse porters, finding other issues after the work vs before taking the car in.

i rather spend 350 and clearbra my bumper at home and replace it every 3-4yrs.

unless you got crappy aftermarket paint that was improperly applied, paint will not lift.
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