A quick csc failure question!

Zero dark · 03-18-2015, 11:11 PM

Csc failure came to my attention reading through the forums today and it seems pretty common. Is this something that will fail in all 370's? Im a casual driver no track or anything like that. Since its a cheap plastic i feel like its something that has become inevitable to fail on us

. Or is it more luck of the draw that you can go 100k without it failing

DEpointfive0 · 03-18-2015, 11:24 PM

Assume it's going to go out. Before 100k. So start saving

Zero dark · 03-18-2015, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Assume it's going to go out. Before 100k. So start saving

Was hoping this wasnt the case. Time to start a csc fund at 1600 miles

jaedub · 03-19-2015, 01:17 AM

I think it depends on how you drive the car. I personally believe it'll last a life time if you properly drive the car.

DEpointfive0 · 03-19-2015, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jaedub

I think it depends on how you drive the car. I personally believe it'll last a life time if you properly drive the car.

I guess, but only a few careless shifts, actually with it's crap design I bet ONE "careless" shift where you mash the clutch pedal to the floor will start the CSC on a downward spiral, leading it to give out.

OP, might want to make that a $2000-3000 fund. You might as well change the clutch and flywheel while you're at it.

FairladyZ10PG · 03-19-2015, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jaedub

I think it depends on how you drive the car. I personally believe it'll last a life time if you properly drive the car.

I think that term is very relative

some will say the only proper way to drive the car is to drive hard (z=sports car)

& some will say driving miss daisy is proper

so which one is it that you're referring to?

ilovegirls · 03-19-2015, 04:03 AM

I'm at 51k and my csc went out last night.

njobe89 · 03-19-2015, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

I guess, but only a few careless shifts, actually with it's crap design I bet ONE "careless" shift where you mash the clutch pedal to the floor will start the CSC on a downward spiral, leading it to give out.

OP, might want to make that a $2000-3000 fund. You might as well change the clutch and flywheel while you're at it.

what if it goes out at 15k, the clutch and flywheel would still be pretty much new

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Originally Posted by ilovegirls

I'm at 51k and my csc went out last night.

at least you love girls

4TthAnnyZ · 03-19-2015, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovegirls

I'm at 51k and my csc went out last night.

Im at 52,150 and mine still seems fine. *knock on wood*

Shotta · 03-19-2015, 12:03 PM

If you invest a couple of hundred dollars into the RJM clutch pedal assembly you might extend the life of the csc or possibly eliminate the failure all together. Not my claims, just info based on the postings of the pedal assembly manufacturer.

Zero dark · 03-19-2015, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotta

If you invest a couple of hundred dollars into the RJM clutch pedal assembly you might extend the life of the csc or possibly eliminate the failure all together. Not my claims, just info based on the postings of the pedal assembly manufacturer.

Elaborate. Clutch mechanic noob here

Shotta · 03-19-2015, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero dark

Elaborate. Clutch mechanic noob here

Unfortunately I can't because I don't know the exact reason but something to do with shorter stroke of the shaft between the clutch pedal and csc. If I find the thread where I saw the information I will post the link. He claims no one has had a failure after installing his pedal kit, I have no reason to not believe the claim. I have the pedal kit installed and so far so good at 70,000 kms.

Post #125 of the "Review: RJM AFP Clutch Pedal System" thread in the engine & drivetrain section has the explaination. Sorry I couldn't do a link back, I'm forum illiterate.

Z-Girl 12 · 03-19-2015, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovegirls

I'm at 51k and my csc went out last night.

Crrrraaapppp

Davey · 03-19-2015, 11:50 AM

My theory is that rapidly pressing the clutch is what kills it, so I don't think I'll have a problem for quite a while.

If I can't get it replaced under warranty, I'll definitely have a lightweight flywheel installed at the same time.

nis350 · 03-19-2015, 04:38 PM

I doubt that's the cause of the csc failure unless you were feathering the clutch on every shift, then the clutch disc will likely to be worn out before the csc. I suspect that the main causes are excessive heat and poor material of the rubber seals.

Cars with external csc would normally last much longer.

[QUOTE=Davey;3142501]My theory is that rapidly pressing the clutch is what kills it/QUOTE]

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Zero dark Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Baltimore Posts: 379 Drives: 15 PW Nismo 6 SPD Rep Power: 11	A quick csc failure question! Csc failure came to my attention reading through the forums today and it seems pretty common. Is this something that will fail in all 370's? Im a casual driver no track or anything like that. Since its a cheap plastic i feel like its something that has become inevitable to fail on us . Or is it more luck of the draw that you can go 100k without it failing

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jaedub Track Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 906 Drives: 2010 Black 370Z MT Rep Power: 305	I think it depends on how you drive the car. I personally believe it'll last a life time if you properly drive the car.

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Davey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,766 Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT Rep Power: 117171	My theory is that rapidly pressing the clutch is what kills it, so I don't think I'll have a problem for quite a while. If I can't get it replaced under warranty, I'll definitely have a lightweight flywheel installed at the same time.

03-19-2015, 04:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
nis350 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: socal Posts: 1,112 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 13435	I doubt that's the cause of the csc failure unless you were feathering the clutch on every shift, then the clutch disc will likely to be worn out before the csc. I suspect that the main causes are excessive heat and poor material of the rubber seals. Cars with external csc would normally last much longer. [QUOTE=Davey;3142501]My theory is that rapidly pressing the clutch is what kills it/QUOTE]